9mm defence loads?

While I agree with your comment I also read some of the posts here and frankly, a good number are way over the top. In fact I recall one poster who claimed he only owned firearms to kill people with and steadfastly stated that was a handguns sole purpose for existing. None of which is true of course.

Most here either shoot one of the shooting sports or plink at the range for fun. If you go through the threads most relate to the shooting sports be it, IDPA, IPSC, PPC, Cowboy Action or anyone of the various forms of 3 Gun or Multi-gun. If not those just shooting at various targets.

I think it is worthwhile comment to remind folks who get wound up on various self defense topics that use of a handgun to protect ones life in this country is extremely rare. Thankfully.

Take Care

Bob

Don't beat around the bush Bob, you're referring to me, although as usual your comprehension and memory recall skills are lacking. I never said my guns were(owned) for killing people. I said my guns are set up for defending myself to include shooting people. And you're entirely wrong, firearms were designed and are still primarily designed for shooting people or other living organisms. The "sport" side of firearms use is a by product of the original design and intent. In addition, any firearm setup for its intended role will easily do well as a competitive piece as well. Changing target mediums does not negate the benefits of a firearm setup for its traditional role.


As for worrying about ones health, you're right, it is a concern and something we all will likely face in one form or another. That doesn't mean you should ignore the possibility of an early grave due to a violent encounter, nor does that mean you can't actively work to prevent both medical/health problems as well as socially fostered health problems. Heart disease, stroke, even cancer are all bad, but they can be countered. A gunshot wound to the face or repeated strikes from a blunt instrument require much more immediate attention/action if you wish to survive long enough to get heart disease or cancer.


TDC
 
That's definitely true...but only if they've actually started happening.

Once you are getting shot, you definitely need to be doing something about it instantly, but considering the number of people that get through their entire lives without getting even a little bit shot, odds are you can delay doing anything about it for a long time without reducing your probability of living to a given age.

Whereas the longer a person goes without addressing other health concerns, the higher their chances of developing related complications get.

Anyway I say this obviously not because I disagree with the idea of preparing for possible self-defense scenarios, because as anyone who knows me can tell you, I'm not particularly enthused with competition or anything. I'm mainly someone who appreciates guns as defensive weapons and to that end I generally shoot night-sight and WML-equipped Glocks out of Kydex pancake holsters. I support defensive-oriented shooting 100%.

But I do think it's important to consider that we all have a VERY good chance of not ever having to point a gun at anyone, ever, and that generally speaking - and I am speaking generally here and I at least am not singling out TDC or anyone else on this - it's a good idea not to fixate on any one thing too much, whether that's smoking or whether that's playing golf. But particularly if it involves relatively low probability threats to your life, I think it's important to recognize that there is a probability factor there, and to consider how how far around the axle you want to wrap yourself over what is probably a fairly minor threat.

Sometimes the best tactic to employ is this: have a drink, relax with some friends, go for a bike ride tomorrow. I find this tactic is pretty compatible even with my "I have a mortgage payment's worth of MOLLE pouches that I have obsessively inspected for weak seams, despite the fact that the only Joint Task Force I am a member of is my workplace's Joint Task Force on Construction Productivity" mentality.
 
Truth is, all shooting sports are defense oriented. Just like the Olympic events of javelin (spear) throw, shotput (rocks), hammer throw, archery, fencing, boxing, wrestling, etc. Even track events can be considered competition in simulated defensive skills, to see who can run away from his enemies the fastest:D. IPSC and IDPA courses of fire are all based on defensive situations. Even bullseye shooting can be construed to have defensive training beginnings.

No need to hide the fact that a firearm is a weapon that has been used, can be used, and will be used to defend ourselves.
 
I have a hard time referring to a weapon as a gun. I was raised that it is a weapon, guns are on ships and towed by vehicles. I definitely am involved in a sport aspect I am just getting back into owning weapons so I am a newbie regarding the law etc but have had rifles of some sort or another most of my early life. What I don't get is that my "guns" will be all locked up so when someone kicks in the door I wouldn't get to them in time anyway. On the threat assessment side I constantly scan for threats, not in a creepy pseudo secret agent way but I know what is around me and in public situations feel quite confident about my surroundings. It has saved my butt a few times but mostly in foreign places lol.
Wally
 
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