9mm for IPSC standard??

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I see talk of 9mm factory loads being used for production div., but what about standard division?

My girlfriend is taking the black badge course with me next weekend. She has decided she wants an XD 40, but is having trouble finding one in time for the course. Wolverine has some sitting at the border but not in stock. Her preference is also a green one, which complicates things, but she would take a balck one in a pinch.

She also considered a Glock 17 though, but I steered her away because I thought she could handle the .40 and I thought there were some issues with shooting a 9mm in standard. A Glock 17 would be much easier to find and easier for her to shoot, and she might even be able to get one by Friday. She doesn't even know if IPSC is for her, but likes shooting. Perhaps she should get her Glock 17 that she likes and just use that for now. What do you all think?

I had also heard of a law enforcement package of a Glock (.40) with night sights and a .22 conversion kit for a very reasonable price. Add a couple of mags, Uncle Mikes pouches and holster and she's good to go.

If anyone knows of where or how to get this Gloack package, or who has a new XD40 kit in stock, I'd really appreciate a point in the right direction.

Thanks!
 
Why not get the Glock 17 in 9mm and just stick to shooting in production division?,you would be very competitive with the Glock and production is really an up and coming division with lots of good shooters going into it.

If you shoot a 9 in Std division,you are at a real disadvantage scoring only minor and your still competing against $2500 custom guns

The 9mm is also a bit cheaper to shoot than the 40,as well as being easier to shoot than the 40 in a Glock
 
I would hold out for the xd-40. If you want to shoot standard make sure you are using .40 cal. Production you can get away with 9mm.

Alot of ranges will rent you a pistol to do the course, you may want to look into that option instead of rushing to buy a pistol that is not exactly what you want.
 
I don't shoot IPSC so I won't comment on that respect, but unless your girlfriend has big hands, she'll probably find the XD more controllable and comfortable in rapid fire than a glock. I find the glock grip very square, (my hands aren't very big) and my wife (who is quite small) can't even reach the trigger on a glock.
 
Standard or open is what most matches are here in Winnipeg and from what I know, most of if not all of Manitoba. We don't shoot production division. She is 5'5" or so and about 106 pounds so she is small (and hot!). :) So she needs a gun suitable for standard.
 
There are no "standard matches" or "open matches" in IPSC, you can shoot whatever division you want in each match.

Just shoot the G17 and declare it as Production. And if are no other Prod shooter then she gets to win the division in the match. :D
 
While I live in NS (currently) in NB there is at least two Ladies that shoot Standard in 9mm minor (of course)....my wife started in .40SW minor....for the first few matches then when Major...couldn't really control the beast.....she's is Open and happy now......will be moving in MB this summer.....
 
just make sure whatever it is,she is comfortable with it (recoil etc..)you won't gain any points in std with a higher power factor gun if you can't control it and get your hits,maybe she would be better off starting smaller than working up,the last thing you want is for her to get discouraged!
 
my wife at 4'11,100 lbs dripping wet grips my glock 17 with no troubles at all.performs very well with the trigger and mag release button.she likes the glock because her hands are small and doen't have to screw with any safeties,just draw-point-shoot
 
Comfort in gripping a pistol is a very personal thing and typically has little to do with the size of the person.

Have her out to some clubs or matches and see if you can find some people to let her try out some different grips/guns. That way she can pick which one feels best to her, because in the end thats what really matters.

Not what we think would be good for her. I know women with little hands who shoot Para framed standard guns, and are pretty good at it too! The 1911 grip angle just feels right to me. The Glock grip angle drives me crazy as I always have to cant my wrist.

Then there's grip shape, and trigger feel/travel etc... These are all important.
 
When I brought my NZ-85b in9mm out to the shoot, I was told it was in the Standard division because it is DA/SA with no decocker.

From what I have been told, my Sig 226 will be in Production and my .45 1911A1C would be in Standard?

Are the hogue grip with the finger grooves considered an illegal modification?
 
u can manually drop the hammer and be production....

Colin said:
When I brought my NZ-85b in9mm out to the shoot, I was told it was in the Standard division because it is DA/SA with no decocker.

From what I have been told, my Sig 226 will be in Production and my .45 1911A1C would be in Standard?

Are the hogue grip with the finger grooves considered an illegal modification?
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I was shooting 9mm in stdandard long before there was production. Shooting a .40 instead of 9mm won't make her a better shooter or better competitor.

If she specifically likes .40, get a .40 gun; if she prefers 9mm, get 9mm - shooting something that she likes and feels good/natural is much more important and will make a much bigger difference score wise than worrying if you'll get 3 or 4 points per C. This is to get her started in shooting, right? Get her the gun that fits her the best and which is the most controllable. If that's a G17, so be it. If it's XD .40, so be it - the whole issue of major vs minor, std vs production doesn't really make a whole lot of difference until you get very close to your competition, and you want to make sure every little bit of scoring advantage goes your way. Sounds like it will be a while before she gets to that point.

Don't fall into the trap of thinking that you can buy performance; get her what she likes and what is ipsc legal... Other stuff can come later.
 
Colin said:
From what I have been told, my Sig 226 will be in Production and my .45 1911A1C would be in Standard?
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Yes! Assuming you haven't made any modifications to the Sig.

Colin said:
Are the hogue grip with the finger grooves considered an illegal modification?
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Yes - in production (ie. your Sig). No - in Standard (your 1911).
 
I started shooting in the standard division with a 9mm Taurus, it was eligible for production division but we didn't have enough of these shooters to make a division. I wasn't a threat to win the division but did win my class of the division on several occations. If she is just starting out, I would not be concerned with minor or majors loads, make sure she has fun. I had a great time beating guys shooting major with my little 9mm. :p ;) Also, don't forget that if you shoot A's, there is no disadvantage. I do shoot a .40 now, but starting in minor made me a more accurate shooter, I had to be.:cool:
 
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