9mm Largo for Destroyer Carbine
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ive loaded for and shot one for a long time. my load is 5.5 231 under a 115 HP. i do however use small RIFLE primers, and almost exclusively starline largo brass now. no need to mess with anything else.
ive had many of these rifles over the years and they range from crap construction not sure if i should shoot it to the beutiful craftsmanship. parts will most likely NOT fit from gun to gun . standard 1911 mags in 38 ACP or super will work. just need to file in a slot for the catch. someplace i have 5-8 original spare mags aswell
ive had many of these rifles over the years and they range from crap construction not sure if i should shoot it to the beutiful craftsmanship. parts will most likely NOT fit from gun to gun . standard 1911 mags in 38 ACP or super will work. just need to file in a slot for the catch. someplace i have 5-8 original spare mags aswell
Well, luck is with me on my initial choice for loads. Once I got squared away, thanks to Rusty Wood.
If cases were unobtainable, I would use the 9 x 23 SH brass...but I think I'm good to go here now.
Thanks all
Tokguy:
Re: primer flow
Are you sure it wasn't from a combination of a soft primer cup and a poorly-fitted firing pin in the bolt? I experienced the same thing last summer in my .357 Ruger #1. Using Federal small pistol primers in .38 Special Starline brass with ~200 grain hard-cast bullets & Nobel Magnum 6 powder, about 1 in 4 primers were pierced, while the rest blanked. Switching to S&B small pistol primers, which I also use for all of my .22 Hornet loads in my Ruger #1, all piercing & blanking ceased.
Re: 5.5 gr. W231
Using QL for various 124 gr RNFMJ bullets using 5.5 gr. of W231, I'm getting anywhere from 29k to 31k, pressures, depending, of course, on the bullet's length, C.O.A.L., &c.
Re: Getting a good carbon show down the side...suspect the chamber is generous. Haven't run anything hot enough to FF yet though.
Don't forget that to fire-form brass, it takes ~28k worth of pressure, especially for Starline brass.
Bearhunter:
Re: The Destroyer isn't a 100 yard rifle.
Because of the sights or the cartridge itself? The reason I ask is that I intend to sporterize my recently acquired example, including drilling & tapping the receiver, as the trigger pull is the nicest I have EVER experienced on a surplus arm, including Tom Bongalis' Greek M1903 carbines some 50 years ago. Plus, the stock is large enough that the surplus can be sanded away to reveal a slim sporter.
Re: Bore diameters vary greatly, so you may have to use cast bullets. I load my 9x23 Winchester cases with 125 grain, powder coated .359 cast lead bullets.
That is excellent news, as I have a surfeit of .359" cast bullets of various weights, in addition to relatively heavy 9mm bullets.
.38 Super Starline brass, my initial purchase, will not fit in the chamber of my rifle; my latest purchase of Starline 9mm Largo from Rusty Wood, however, fits like it was meant for it! Go figure!
;-)
As an aside, considering I have been buying surplus arms since the late 70's, I have to ask myself, why in the heck did I miss them when they first came on the Canadian market?
Re: primer flow
Are you sure it wasn't from a combination of a soft primer cup and a poorly-fitted firing pin in the bolt? I experienced the same thing last summer in my .357 Ruger #1. Using Federal small pistol primers in .38 Special Starline brass with ~200 grain hard-cast bullets & Nobel Magnum 6 powder, about 1 in 4 primers were pierced, while the rest blanked. Switching to S&B small pistol primers, which I also use for all of my .22 Hornet loads in my Ruger #1, all piercing & blanking ceased.
Re: 5.5 gr. W231
Using QL for various 124 gr RNFMJ bullets using 5.5 gr. of W231, I'm getting anywhere from 29k to 31k, pressures, depending, of course, on the bullet's length, C.O.A.L., &c.
Re: Getting a good carbon show down the side...suspect the chamber is generous. Haven't run anything hot enough to FF yet though.
Don't forget that to fire-form brass, it takes ~28k worth of pressure, especially for Starline brass.
Bearhunter:
Re: The Destroyer isn't a 100 yard rifle.
Because of the sights or the cartridge itself? The reason I ask is that I intend to sporterize my recently acquired example, including drilling & tapping the receiver, as the trigger pull is the nicest I have EVER experienced on a surplus arm, including Tom Bongalis' Greek M1903 carbines some 50 years ago. Plus, the stock is large enough that the surplus can be sanded away to reveal a slim sporter.
Re: Bore diameters vary greatly, so you may have to use cast bullets. I load my 9x23 Winchester cases with 125 grain, powder coated .359 cast lead bullets.
That is excellent news, as I have a surfeit of .359" cast bullets of various weights, in addition to relatively heavy 9mm bullets.
.38 Super Starline brass, my initial purchase, will not fit in the chamber of my rifle; my latest purchase of Starline 9mm Largo from Rusty Wood, however, fits like it was meant for it! Go figure!
;-)
As an aside, considering I have been buying surplus arms since the late 70's, I have to ask myself, why in the heck did I miss them when they first came on the Canadian market?
