9MM Luger Recipe?

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I just recently started loading 9mm and looking for some recipe ideas. I've tried 231 and Longshot powders so far with success "BUT", I'm noticing a big difference in loading data from my Lyman book showing a starting load of 231 for a 125gr jhp of 3.9gr to a max of 4.4gr. Hodgsons online reloading center shows a starting load of 231 at 4.4gr to a max of 4.8gr? This seems a bit out of wack any insight? Would won trust a online source or a $40 book?
 
its called liability... each company will publish their own info and what they are confortable with.

What loads worked well in your gun? that's more important to you because they are shooting off in your gun. Try loading up a bunch of rounds in .2 of a grain increments and you will see the difference. Some where in the middle we find the sweet spot and some times it takes 5 different brands of powers and 20 years to find.

Some popular powders I like for handgun is titegroup, unique and 231.

Have fun
 
You asked about loading info for the 9 mm Luger.
I liked the old Lyman pistol & Revolver Handbook, printed 1978.
It is strange that they show 231 for most pistols, but not with the Luger,for any of the four bullet weights shown. Here is a rundown with the125 grain bullet. Don't go by my figures, I may have made a typo.

700x 3 to 4.4
Bullseye 3.3 to 4.8
Unique 4.1 to 5.3
Red Dot 6.1 to 8
630 7.3 to 10.1
HS-6 5.4 to 6.8
AL 5 5 to 6.9

With the 700x, the velocity with the heavy load is 1085.
The heavy load of every other powder shown, is between 1144 and 1190.
 
Other than my 1st 'had to have' handgun, a 22 Erma Luger which I still have, I have never owned the genuine Luger 9mm article. I have however had the opportunity to 'play' with a couple and in reloading for them, I found I needed to load them to the max to get enough power to work the toggle action reliaby on a consistent basis. They both needed hot ammo to function with out jamming, more so than say a Walther P 38 or a P 35 Browning High Power.
 
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plasma said:
I just recently started loading 9mm and looking for some recipe ideas. I've tried 231 and Longshot powders so far with success "BUT", I'm noticing a big difference in loading data from my Lyman book showing a starting load of 231 for a 125gr jhp of 3.9gr to a max of 4.4gr. Hodgsons online reloading center shows a starting load of 231 at 4.4gr to a max of 4.8gr? This seems a bit out of wack any insight? Would won trust a online source or a $40 book?
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The Hodgdon website is up to date and updated regularly, I trust it completely.

Different companies list different maximum charges, just work up a load for what is safe and hits correct velocities in YOUR gun.
 
I've read that slower burning powders work better in the small 9mm case, so I've been loading with Winchester WSF and find it works well. My current loads using a 124gr. copper plated slug from AIM is: 4.6gr. of WSF with a OAL of 1.14". This is close to the max for a lead bullet according to winchester's website. You should start ten percent below and work up as usual. Just what works for me. My M&P with 3000 rounds thru it will cycle fine with 4.3gr. but my buddy's new SIG 226 won't cycle without 4.6gr. of WSF, and he doesn't reload so I've been trying to work out a load that will run in both guns.
 
I have chrono data for the Frontier 124 gr. RN. Average of 1113 FPS with 4.4 grains of HP-38 through a Glock 17, OAL was 1.125 if that helps.
T
 
I like 6.5gr. of HS-6 (velocity 1120) with a 124gr. Frontier Plated FP. Win case and primer, 1.125"COL.

Second favorite is Tightgroup, 4.1gr. with same components and specs. Great data from this load according to the many I've put over the chronograph. Average velocity is 1060fps.

Both loads shot from a Glock 17. I've used both for general range use for about 7 or so years and load a few thousand to these specs at a time. Hope this helps.
 
I just picked some WSF powder but can't find any recipes for 9mm 124gr fmj's in any loading books or online. Anybody have a recipe?
 
Look on Lee's website.

Using the info sheet that came with my Lee dies, with Frontier 124 gr. copper plated RN bullets: 4.7 - 5.3 grains, min OAL of 1.095.

I personally use 4.9 - 5.1 of WSF, OAL of 1.125", and get good accuracy in my 9's.

Invest in a good manual, it's well worth it.

Good luck.
 
Try the Hodgson website stickied at the top of the page!

4.0 gr 231, 124 gr plated 1.120"oal...Just started working with N320 3.8gr, 124 plated 1.145"oal shoots very nice maybe even better than the 231 load! Jurys still out though, however N320 is incredibly clean.
 
My AIM 124 Load workup:
Bullet Manufacturer :AIM Bullet Weight: 124 grains
Powder Type : 231 Powder Weight: 3.8 grains
Primer: CCI C.0.L. 1.100
Average Velocity : 912.4 Power Factor: 113

Bullet Manufacturer : AIM Bullet Weight: 124 grains
Powder Type : 231 Powder Weight: 4.0 grains
Primer: CCI C.0.L. 1.100
Average Velocity : 953.0 Power Factor: 118

Bullet Manufacturer : AIM Bullet Weight: 124 grains
Powder Type : 231 Powder Weight: 4.2 grains
Primer: CCI C.0.L. 1.100
Average Velocity : 1006.2 Power Factor: 125

Bullet Manufacturer : AIM Bullet Weight: 124 grains
Powder Type : 231 Powder Weight: 4.4 grains
Primer: CCI C.0.L. 1.100
Average Velocity : 1022.0 Power Factor: 127

Bullet Manufacturer : AIM Bullet Weight: 124 grains
Powder Type : 231 Powder Weight: 4.6 grains
Primer: CCI C.0.L. 1.100
Average Velocity : 1063.5 Power Factor: 132

Going to run up a few hundred of the 4.6 grain load to give a try.
 
Tim@nutz said:
I have chrono data for the Frontier 124 gr. RN. Average of 1113 FPS with 4.4 grains of HP-38 through a Glock 17, OAL was 1.125 if that helps.
T
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I use this very load data myself. I like it...I was using Aim Projectiles 124gr RN bullets though...I would assume that there isn't much difference.
 
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