A big concern with handgun safety....(Same for canada as usa?)

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So the deal is, babies kill more people in america with handguns than anyone. Like WTF how do they get their hands on them? irresponsible idiots who keep it loaded in the nightstand? sure.

But also this....
The basic mechanism for a handgun lockbox is the same across all brands... including the ones issued to law enforcement all across america. No matter if its key, combo, biometric, mechanical or electronic.
A 2 year old can open it instantly.

The patent office is aware, the manufacturers are aware, the retailers and branding companies are aware, not a single one will recall or change the design. Some cops who had their kids get killed or kill another kid came forward with this issue so its from within the community.

So... no wonder? How much do you have to spend to get a proper secure storage device? All these range up to $300 or so.. thats a lot for a tiny box. Still fails.


This transfers some responsibility from gun owners to corporations who are looking to manufacture something for $15 and sell it for $200.

So how do you properly and securely store your handgun? Since they can't legally be used for home defence in Canada it's probably less of an issue... secure and separate from ammo under lock and key at all times including when transported right?

This is the kind of thing that makes me mad.... and gun owners are not up in arms over it nearly enough.
 
Take a three year old that has not been taught exactly how to defeat these, given specific tool made/designed to defeat these safes and see what happens.

This is pure propaganda.

My favorite part was the oops the kid cant open this by jamming the tool I gave him in the lock. Here let me remove this cover and tell him to jam it in this hole.

All brought to you by a company trying to sell you surveillance equipment because you know your safes/storage boxes are 100% useless and the only way to catch the thief is to record him doing it :rolleyes:

Your right this is completely legit. lol lol lol

Shawn
 
My kids (4 years old and 18 months) both know not to go near my gun cases. I have made it very clear that they aren't allowed to touch a gun without Daddy. I have also drilled the concept of muzzle control into my 4 year olds brain. She won't even point a toy pistol at someone. Don't be fooled, when it comes to children, education is the best defense against negligent discharge.
 
WRH said:
My kids (4 years old and 18 months) both know not to go near my gun cases. I have made it very clear that they aren't allowed to touch a gun without Daddy. I have also drilled the concept of muzzle control into my 4 year olds brain. She won't even point a toy pistol at someone. Don't be fooled, when it comes to children, education is the best defense against negligent discharge.
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+1 exactly
 
Most of the gun tragedies I read about in the States were failures on a level far lower than getting into the safe. A gun just left laying around.
 
ADHDCanuck said:
Since they can't legally be used for home defence in Canada it's probably less of an issue... secure and separate from ammo under lock and key at all times including when transported right?
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The law does permit you to use deadly force if you fear death or bodily harm.

The law also does not require you necessarily store your firearms, restricted or not, separate from ammunition. If in a safe, ammunition may be stored with the firearm, just not IN the firearm. I store my handguns in a small safe with charged magazines ready to go and that is perfectly legal.
 
It is easy to rig the lock in the video so that it does that:
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You just loosen the hex-head screws so the metal plate barely scrapes the solenoid. You can adjust the other way to make bumping impractical.

You don't have to wet your pants about every fake youtube video.
 
WRH said:
My kids (4 years old and 18 months) both know not to go near my gun cases. I have made it very clear that they aren't allowed to touch a gun without Daddy. I have also drilled the concept of muzzle control into my 4 year olds brain. She won't even point a toy pistol at someone. Don't be fooled, when it comes to children, education is the best defense against negligent discharge.
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Yes, parents educating their kids properly are the best safeguard.
 
WRH said:
My kids (4 years old and 18 months) both know not to go near my gun cases. I have made it very clear that they aren't allowed to touch a gun without Daddy. I have also drilled the concept of muzzle control into my 4 year olds brain. She won't even point a toy pistol at someone. Don't be fooled, when it comes to children, education is the best defense against negligent discharge.
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This right here exactly. Unless we're talking about very young crawling todlers but as long as your firearms aren't laying around loaded they shouldn't be a problem.
 
WRH said:
My kids (4 years old and 18 months) both know not to go near my gun cases. I have made it very clear that they aren't allowed to touch a gun without Daddy. I have also drilled the concept of muzzle control into my 4 year olds brain. She won't even point a toy pistol at someone. Don't be fooled, when it comes to children, education is the best defense against negligent discharge.
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Here we have a winner folks. Prior to secure storage laws firearms were accessible to everyone that could take it off of the mantle, and as a species we're somehow still here ;).

Education in firearms to children is the key to safety. Creating a mystical object is only going to increase curiosity and the chances of a tragedy should the child obtain access.

Oh and that video was horrible. Given the right tools, training and a tampered with storage device and it's no wonder it looks easy.
 
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