A bit more on the Glock 19 and its adoption by the US Army

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This is from sofrep.com, a site owned and run by ex special forces. They run articles written by SOF forces from all over the world, normally on a subscriber basis and in my experience are about the only authentic special forces website available in English. Anyway, they've made this article free for all, I guess because they're quoting someone else. And for the record, I have no connection to them, I'm not even a subscriber myself, I'm a poor man with too much to read as it is. But I do admire their efforts to succeed in the bizarre and cutthroat civilian world.



SOCOM Adopts the Glock 19: Will Big Army follow?


By SOFREP| 05.09.2016|#Expert Analysis Email| Share| Tweet|


Over the last few months, US Special Operations Command units of all branches of the military have been getting Glock 19s. Numerous reports state that Naval Special Warfare Command, MARSOC and AFSOC have been issued the Glock 19.

Elements of Army SOF have used the Glock 22 for years and are now getting the Glock 19. Army Special Forces Groups have received shipments of Glock 19s for issue.

The major asset of the Glock 19 is simplicity. It has few parts, can be taken down with just a punch. While highly reliable and easy to maintain, it has good accuracy and effectiveness.

The Glock 19 has a lot to offer in a compact package, and is by far the most popular platform Glock makes. The Glock 17 is the full size variant of the 9mm, the Glock 19 is essentially the same, just a bit smaller package; shorter barrel and two less rounds in the magazine. The Glock 19 will be an outstanding platform for SOCOM for the next 20 years.

The problems with the US military’s Beretta 92’s are well known. In spite of firearms evolution, SOCOM seems enamored with the 30 year old Glock 19. The Glock 19 is a NATO standard handgun used by our allies.

The U.S. Army remains committed to the Modular Handgun System program despite high costs, low performance and heavy criticism. The Army’s Chief of Staff General Mark Milley has publicly complained about the Army’s broken procurement system.

In private, General Milley’s staff has asked the Army Special Operations Command’s G-8 office (responsible for procuring new equipment) about the possibility of the Army joining the contract to buy Glock 19s. This kind of contract sharing is common with federal law enforcement.

Glock’s most popular handgun, the Glock 19 retails for around $500. Reportedly, USASOC is currently paying about $320 for each. At that price, the Army could buy the required 287,000 pistols for about$91.8 million. The Modular Handgun program is projected to cost $350 million.

Predicting how the Army will behave, but hear me now and believe me later, There is a very real possibility that the entire US Army will switch completely to Glock followed by the other services would follow suit. It would be a huge victory for soldiers and taxpayers.

I a related story, both the FBI and DHS have solicitations to buy new 9mm handguns in the next year. Both agencies now authorize Glocks and many agents are openly campaigning for Glock 19.

Next year might get very busy at the Glock factory in Smyrna Georgia.

Originally posted on The Arms Guide. The Arms Guide is back and better than ever with a new editor, Mark Miller. Check out the site for more awesome articles.

Featured image courtesy of Glocktalk.com;US Army Special Operations Command’s Capabilities Exercise. 04-24-2012



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Glock believers have been in the firearms wilderness for MORE than 40 days and 40 nights*, but now we're coming to town and kicking azz. ("azz" seems to be the usual CGN spelling right now). I'm just not sure why the 17 isn't the better choice for everyday use by regular troopers.

* I mean among non-practical users.
 
Glock believers have been in the firearms wilderness for MORE than 40 days and 40 nights*, but now we're coming to town and kicking azz. ("azz" seems to be the usual CGN spelling right now). I'm just not sure why the 17 isn't the better choice for everyday use by regular troopers.

* I mean among non-practical users.

Handguns won't be a primary weapon for most, just another thing to carry and find space for. Smaller is easier to find a place for on your gear. Weight adds up fast too.
 
Glock believers have been in the firearms wilderness for MORE than 40 days and 40 nights*, but now we're coming to town and kicking azz. ("azz" seems to be the usual CGN spelling right now). I'm just not sure why the 17 isn't the better choice for everyday use by regular troopers.

* I mean among non-practical users.

Very true. About choosing the 19 over the 17... The 19 is less weight and even more "handy". Sales of the 19 clearly show it is the favourite in the glock family. In Canada it has a bad rap due to the pinocchio barrels.
 
I also heard somewhere that in the United States, the 19 is by far, more popular than the 17. I think if we didn't have our laws, the trend would be true here as well.
 
I disagree..but there you go

It maybe depends on the size of your hand.

I've handled 17s in the past but haven't shot one. The last time I was in a US gun shop (last Christmas) I asked to see one but they'd sold out, probably thanks to the news about the SEALs adopting them as their standard sidearm. (The folks in the store said there was a big run on them all over the US but they didn't know why.)
 
Handguns won't be a primary weapon for most, just another thing to carry and find space for. Smaller is easier to find a place for on your gear. Weight adds up fast too.

That would be an important factor for me if I was to carry one along with all the other gear.
 
It maybe depends on the size of your hand.

I've handled 17s in the past but haven't shot one. The last time I was in a US gun shop (last Christmas) I asked to see one but they'd sold out, probably thanks to the news about the SEALs adopting them as their standard sidearm. (The folks in the store said there was a big run on them all over the US but they didn't know why.)


That's true and they are nearly identical but one being superior over the other is a ..stretch
 
That's true and they are nearly identical but one being superior over the other is a ..stretch

Something in the grip angle make the 19 a lot closer to a 1911 than a 17, the 17 always felt like a 2X4 for me at least, size of the hands is not it, more of a conception difference...
Something is sure, a herd of Glocks without a 19 is missing the flagship pistol of the make...

Buying a G19 Gen 4 been a revelation in the handguns world for me, and many that would try it would agree with me... JP.
 
Something in the grip angle make the 19 a lot closer to a 1911 than a 17, the 17 always felt like a 2X4 for me at least, size of the hands is not it, more of a conception difference...
Something is sure, a herd of Glocks without a 19 is missing the flagship pistol of the make...

Buying a G19 Gen 4 been a revelation in the handguns world for me, and many that would try it would agree with me... JP.

Sticking with my Gen3, but i agree, the platform the G19 was built on is a definite home run. As a defensive/practical pistol (if you had to pick 1), beats everything else hands down.
 
Now that i have my G19, both my G17 and G17L will gather dust, i dont see myself, taking a 17 to the range instead of my 19, i could not do this... JP.
 
And one thing is certain, if a dealer offer a G23 Gen 4 with a 106mm LW barrel, i will buy one for sure... JP.
 
Come to think of it, even if everything else was equal a slim 19 would indeed have the advantage over a 17 in a concealed carry nation.
 
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