A couple of unfired non-refurbished Izhevsk SKS for your viewing pleasure

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I haven't seen a lot of photos on the Internet of non-refurbished Izhevsk SKS. I've also seen some misinformation regarding Izhevsk SKS which I hope I can clear up with these photos.

You'll notice that the handguard wood doesn't have a stamped serial number on it. Whoever did that, it wasn't Izhevsk. US importers perhaps. You'll also notice some differences from Tula SKS such as there being cartouches on both sides of the cross bolts (similar to 1956-1958 Tulas) and the final inspection cartouche being different (looks like "AN"). Both have the (uncommon?) toe splice from undersized birch blanks. The splices are of different sizes and shapes.

Serial number locations: Left side of stock, left side of receiver, rear of cover, trigger guard, magazine, carrier, bolt, extractor, rear sight leaf, rod, gas tube. There were no serial numbers on the butt plates until 1955 at Tula.

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Here are the albums in all their oily fingerprinted, cat hair covered, poor lighting conditioned and poor angled glory. I got both of these rifles from the original crate from the Ukraine.

1954 #1 (darky): http://imgur.com/a/9mOpw
1954 #2 (lighty): http://imgur.com/a/pcQqn
 
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Wow! Those little gems belong in a museum. What is the approx. value on those if you don't mind me asking? The lighter coloured one is a real beauty :)
 
cruddie said:
Wow! Those little gems belong in a museum. What is the approx. value on those if you don't mind me asking? The lighter coloured one is a real beauty :)
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Hard to say as I haven't observed many non-refurbished Izhevsks for sale in Canada. Anyone out there sold or purchased one on the secondary (used) market recently? I recently sold one for $500 but that was just a shot in the dark by me and I happened to sell it but it wasn't as nice as either of these.

The blonde has an identical twin from the same batch that's not in my collection unfortunately. Who wouldn't want a couple of hot blonde identical twins?
 
non-refurbished, non-frankenpinned 1953 Izhevsk's are selling well north of $500 now. The 1954's are much more common, but will catch up soon... especially given the bottom of the barrel fodder that's currently being sold.
 
Woodbeef said:
The real prize is a ruby red 53 Izzy non-refurbed.
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The Kurgan said:
non-refurbished, non-frankenpinned 1953 Izhevsk's are selling well north of $500 now. The 1954's are much more common, but will catch up soon... especially given the bottom of the barrel fodder that's currently being sold.
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There are very few non-refurbished 1953 in the new batches that's for sure. I don't know about the older imports though, a bunch could have come through.
 
Now not saying I know much about SKSs, but only ever seen one original ruby red 53 Izzy non-refurbed. Westrifle had it but someone had tried to sand a scratch out of the butt stock.
 
I have a unfired in Canada (I'm first owner), unrefurbished, all matching number Izhevsk SKS aswel. These are extremely rare and as soon as someone has a hand on one, if he's ever willing to sell it, will ask alot more for it. I keep mine in oil and a SKS canvas case to prevent bumps in my locker from other guns when I grab them. It's in mint condition.

When I received it, it had no mark on the dust cover lever, no mark neither on the gas tube removal lever. I was the first person to make the first mark on these 2 areas.

I find the finish of the metal better than my other Tulas. Like they had better machines or something. Maybe it's just me.










 
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Some serial numbers. Sadly thanks to our canadian gun laws for 5 round pinned magazines that ruined the mag. There's still some cosmoline on the gun.







 
I have no idea.. Maybe these stamps meant : ''Hey Dimitri at stock finishing department, bring us some vodka at the sighting range!'' and we get all confused about how mysterious they might be 60+ years later LOL

It's crazy to think about who did it. What it meant. And imagine Soviet Russia in 1954 hammering these together at Izhevsk.
I'm not gonna shoot mine, I just keep it and let it sit there in oil and cosmoline in it's Russian canvas drop case.

Crazy huh? Our SKS's were made the same year at the same factory by the same people. Maybe they were next to eachother on the line. Who knows.
 
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Gaebz said:
I have no idea.. Maybe these stamps meant : ''Hey Dimitri at stock finishing department, bring us some vodka at the sighting range!'' and we get all confused about how mysterious they might be 60+ years later LOL

It's crazy to think about who did it. What it meant. And imagine Soviet Russia in 1954 hammering these together at Izhevsk.
I'm not gonna shoot mine, I just keep it and let it sit there in oil and cosmoline in it's Russian canvas drop case.

Crazy huh? Our SKS's were made the same year at the same factory by the same people. Maybe they were next to eachother on the line. Who knows.
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I have a policy that all my firearms get used. Sometimes it takes a year or so for me to build up the courage to clean out the grease and fire them but I get there eventually. It will only drive the value of yours up!

Last week I cleaned and fired an absolutely pristine 1951 Tula. I could only bring myself to use non-corrosive ammunition, haha.
 
You get used to corrosive ammo. Yesterday I shot about 300 rounds down range and cleaned it with tons of water with the garden hose. Water is 12 times more efficient than ammonia on the solvability chart for dissolving sodium chloride that comes from corrosive primers. (Using Windex works because it's water, ammonia is a myth)
Then take off gun powder with normal cleaning stuff, dish soap and a brush like they used to do on the frontline. Then put all the parts in boiling water, it will evaporate in just a minute leaving no trace of water on metal. Then I oil with spray Rem Oil. Spray goes everywhere so every little corner is rust prevented.
I let the SKS out for a few days and examine it everyday for a week. As soon as there is a little rust dot somewhere (Which is usually due to water not evaporated enough, not corrosive salt), I take a Q-tips and take it off with standard oil.

Barrel is lubed, everything is. Before I go shoot I just run a cleaning cloth down the barrel and inside the gas system to remove the oil. It's alot more work than non corrosive though lol

My SKS's are top of the notch and I shoot only corrosive ammo.

You probably know all of this but it's useful information if someone is new to cleaning corrosive ammo, even in 5 years maybe someone will use the search option and find this.
 
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Gaebz said:
You get used to corrosive ammo. Yesterday I shot about 300 rounds down range and cleaned it with tons of water with the garden hose. Water is 12 times more efficient than ammonia on the solvability chart for dissolving sodium chloride that comes from corrosive primers. (Using Windex works because it's water, ammonia is a myth)
Then take off gun powder with normal cleaning stuff, dish soap and a brush like they used to do on the frontline. Then put all the parts in boiling water, it will evaporate in just a minute leaving no trace of water on metal. Then I oil with spray Rem Oil. Spray goes everywhere so every little corner is rust prevented.
I let the SKS out for a few days and examine it everyday for a week. As soon as there is a little rust dot somewhere (Which is usually due to water not evaporated enough, not corrosive salt), I take a Q-tips and take it off with standard oil.

My SKS's are top of the notch and I shoot only corrosive ammo.
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I personally use moose milk which is water and Ballistol combined. Ballistol emulsifies with water so when you apply the moose milk to a surface the Ballistol will remain even after the water has evaporated making an effective rust shield. Two wet patches down the barrel, followed by two dry patches and finally two oiled patches. I do the same with the gas tube. I wipe down all the parts with moose milk, wipe them dry and then finally wipe them with an oily rag.
 
Ballistol?? Interesting. Never heard of this. You mix it with your water? I'm gonna try it. Canadian Tire? Wal-Mart? Where do you get it? What's the mix concentration?
 
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