A few pictures from the Musée de l'Armée in Paris...

[mtallman]

A few pictures from the Musée de l'Armée in Paris...

I was in Paris a few months ago and had the chance to stop in at the Musée de l'Armée. I saw some interesting French milsurps that I thought I would share with you guys. There are some experimental rifles that I had never heard of and that I am sure are very rare. I also spotted some sort of K98 takedown rifle I had never seen before. Does anyone know what the K98 is? Sorry for the rough picture quality. I am not very proficient in French so wasn't able to translate the descriptions very well.





(Revolver in above image) Saint-Etienne model 1887 (experimental)



(Top rifle in above picture) Semi-auto prototype S.T.A 6mm (1901 date) "elle fonctionne par emprunt des gaz avec pistol sous le canon et verrouillage par rotation helicoidale de la culasse mobile"



(middle rifle in above picture) Semi-auto model A6, dit Meunier. 7mm.

Hotchkiss at the bottom is model 1908-1913 in 8mm


Second case



(3rd rifle from top) Fusil model 1874 transforme a repetition (converted to repeater) "transforme en 1883 par M Vernet avec un chargeur magasin a gravite d'une continance de dix (10) cartouches" 11mm


(next rifle down) Fusil 1874 conversion by M. Werndl 1880. 10 shot 11mm.



(next rifle down) Fusil a repetition model 1878, dit Kropatschek. 11mm.



Third case


(Third rifle from top) Daudeteau type B 6.5mm



Mitrailleuse Gatling Model APX 1895 8mm



Model ETVS 1933. 7.65mm. 32 round mag.


Didn't get a picture of the description but I believe it said 1924 7.5mm.



Here's the 98 takedown


Close up

Two bonus pictures of a Soviet sub (now museum) in Hamburg.




"Torpedo Model EAST - 60M elektrischer Antrieb"

 

[Heimrick]

awesome thanks

 

[NavyShooter]

Did you see the Hand-Grenade Catapult?

WWI section.

NS

 

[JNA]

Pretty cool stuff. Thanks for sharing . If you ever find yourself in Vienna, you must visit their Military Museum. I spent many, many hours in it enjoying everything they had including the car Franz Ferdinand was assassinated in.

 

[Turkeygun]

Nice thanks for sharing

 

[Baxtercharlie]

I wish you had posted the display where they declared our effort at the front a distraction, for the real mission further down the line.

 

[Kirk1701]

I wish you had posted the display where they declared our effort at the front a distraction, for the real mission further down the line.

Say WHAAAATT??!!!

 

[Kirk1701]

(Top rifle in above picture) Semi-auto prototype S.T.A 6mm (1901 date) "elle fonctionne par emprunt des gaz avec pistol sous le canon et verrouillage par rotation helicoidale de la culasse mobile"

"It functions by gas-impingement from a piston under the barrel and helical bolt rotation." Rough translation anyway. So the gas is bled through a tube under the barrel, which connects with a piston. The piston drives the bolt rearwards, which turns in a helical fashion.



(3rd rifle from top) Fusil model 1874 transforme a repetition (converted to repeater) "transforme en 1883 par M Vernet avec un chargeur magasin a gravite d'une continance de dix (10) cartouches" 11mm

"This Fusil model 1874 was converted to a repeater in 1883 by M. Vernet. He included a charger-type magazine where 10 cartridges would be gravity-fed into the chamber." Fascinating. The magazine is much like the Krag, but is forward of the chamber. Also the cartridges drop down into the chamber, rather than being lifted from below.

 

[patrickosuave]

Thanks for sharing your pictures!

 

[Coyote Ugly]

Thanks for posting! Very interesting.

 

[Dark Alley Dan]

VERY cool stuff, bud. Thanks very much.

Here's the 98 takedown

Something's wonky about that MP40. Has it been converted to STEN mags?

 

[sail32]

Some experimental MP40s had a magazine housing that held two normal magazines. When the first one was empty the second moved over to replace it.

 

[mtallman]

Did you see the Hand-Grenade Catapult?

WWI section.

NS

Just found a picture of it! I had to rush through the museum in about an hour and a half so I didn't get focus on much. I snapped a bunch of pictures to make up for it.



Here's a few more




Tankgewehr


Lebel barreled action

 

[Horilka]

That's awesome museum, a must see for every gun nut travelling via Paris. Plan to spend several hours.
I can't find my pics from this museum, isn't it prohibited to make pics there? There are several really nice museum in Europe where they don't allow take pics.

 

[MC One Shot]

Thanks for sharing....Interesting magazine on the Gatling gun.

 

[scott585]

VERY cool stuff, bud. Thanks very much.



Something's wonky about that MP40. Has it been converted to STEN mags?

sten and mp40 mags are interchangable, so stens could use captured mags and ammo

 

[Loyer]

That museum also houses Napoleon's body.




Napoleon's horse

Napoleon's Campaign Kit

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Had to do a little digging. that is a M1931 A with drum. tank and fortress machine gun.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/547/g3k6.jpg/

Grizz

 

[Lee Enfield]

sten and mp40 mags are interchangable, so stens could use captured mags and ammo

No they are not!

Sten mags are interchangeable with MP28-II mags. The British Lanchester is a straight copy of the MP28-II, and when the sten was designed, it had to use the same mag as the Lanchester.

The MP38/40 mag is also based on the MP28 magazine but it is shorter in front to back length...where a mp-28/sten mag had a spacer built in the spine of the mag to stand the cartridge forward into the front of the mag.

 

[kennymo]

I wish you had posted the display where they declared our effort at the front a distraction, for the real mission further down the line.

Interesting, if true. I don't want to call down the French seeing as they took some of the worst fighting, but I seem to recall the British, Anzac and Canadian troops (among some others) had to spread out and cover the line when the French Army started to fall apart in 1917. Can't really blame them for refusing to advance on the umpteenth attempt of the same suicide attack though.