a hypothetical legal question

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OK lets say I have a gun, the frame cracks, but I don't want to fix it, sold the slide etc. How do I take the gun of 'my name'? Would I have to give/show the frame to someone, or can I just throw it out.

also does it matter where the serial number is (frame and/or the slide) which brings me to another question if what I have to register is a receiver (frame) how can I sell the slide if the SN is on it? (the last thing I notice about the gun is where the SN is) :redface:
 
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the slide and frame are one. you have to transfer the whole thing to the person you sold the slide to and then they can throw the frame away.
 
I could be wrong but I don't don't think that's how it is;

the slide is just a part of the gun like a trigger or a barrel and you don't have to register it when you but it separatelly..
 
IM_Lugger said:
OK lets say I have a gun, the frame cracks, but I don't want to fix it, sold the slide etc. How do I take the gun of 'my name'? Would I have to give/show the frame to someone, or can I just throw it out.

also does it matter where the serial number is (frame and/or the slide) which brings me to another question if what I have to register is a receiver (frame) how can I sell the slide if the SN is on it? (the last thing I notice about the gun is where the SN is) :redface:
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You need to have the frame certified as destroyed. The police need to do that. Eventually it may be removed from the registry ( I am still waiting for many after years), so keep the paperwork.

Slides are uncontrolled ignore the serial number.
 
i think the only registered part of a handgun is the frame not the slide, thus you see 1911/glock .22LR conversion kits that is slide only(not registered)....

you can probably call the CFC for instructions to destroy the frame and get it your list of 'owned' restricted firearms.....
 
To my knowledge, in regards to handguns the frame is the "controlled" portion which embodies the essential characteristics of the item/firearm.

Thats why you dont need an ATT to take a barrel to the smith, or the slide to get new sights installed.

For rifles it is the lower receiver (if theres upper & lower) or just the receiver.

I believe there is a procedure and form for declaring and having your handgun/rifle re-registered as just a reciever.

So with this in mind. If and when the gov't declares that all "X" type guns are to be confiscated and destroyed. Just completely dissassemble your firearm down to the receiver, then "dispose" of the remaining parts and register it with the CFC as a receiver. Then when they come to get it, thats what you give them. But if the law is overturned/repealed, you can "acquire" the necessary parts and reassemble the firearm and re-register it.

Any legal experts here, is this a plausible option?
 
Why register as reciever only ? If the gun is to be confiscated, keep the upper and give em the reciever and the finger and be done with it. Unless they declare all uppers/barrels/parts for the confiscated guns to be illegal, you are not in the wrong to just give them the reciever. Hell, if they come for my recievers, maybe I'll fill em with concrete first just to make sure the Lieberals can't resell them (in the US maybe ? Who knows what those thieves and scammers will try...)
 
gorky said:
maybe I'll fill em with concrete first just to make sure the Lieberals can't resell them (in the US maybe ? Who knows what those thieves and scammers will try...)
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Don't fill recievers with concrete, fill bocks of concrete with recievers. More work to haul them away.
 
gorky said:
Why register as reciever only ?
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Because this way, you are totally covered. If you dont re register it and give them just a receiver its possible "they" will seriously screw you.

"You have registered a complete firearm, so thats what we want. Give it up or we'll tear you house apart looking for it or fine you or revoke your PAL or...."

If you have legally registered the receiver, then theres nothing they can say when you give them just a receiver.

Just looking at worst case scenario and how to play with their rules.
 
^^^ To my knowledge there is a great difference between being a receiver and a deactivated firearm.

A receiver is the receiver of the firearm with no other parts. But more importantly, it is not welded/damaged/hacked/cut, it can be reassebled into a functioning firearm.

A deactivated firearm, to be declared deactivated must meet the RCMP requirements for deactivation so that it CANNOT be re-activated (or at least not easily or cheaply).

Just looking at ways to legaly screw the "man".

ps. thanks for the history lesson. I take it that 300 of them vs 600 000 bad guys means that he lost.
 
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