A little help setting up a small match.

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I am looking to set up a shortened Service shoot this year on PEI.

I'm new to this game and need to run a few ideas off of others. I suspect I will have a very limited number of shooters which is just fine to get things running. I have a few former Army guys that will help but if we want this to get done I have to get it moving and need to be organized.

Match 2 Kneeling Figure 12 Snap targets 200 yards
Match 4 run down 200 to 100 (standing) Snap targets again figure 12
Match 6 300 yards prone with Snap Figure 12 again
Match 7 Rapid fire standing to prone 2 figure 11's on a 4x4 target frame.
Match 8 300-200 yard run down Standing snaps on the figure 11 (since its standing only I went with the bigger figure 11 instead of the figure 12.
Match 11 Prone Figure 12 on 4' target frame.

68 rounds as 2 stages don't have sighters. 100 rounds in case of ties or you need to shoot a stage over.

I think this accomplishes a lot with a limited amount of time. Standing, prone and (kneeling/sitting) and the short run downs won't scare away too many people but still stress the shooter a bit.

Your thoughts on the course are welcome. I picked these because we shoot a lot of snap targets and we like them but let me know if its too heavy on snaps. Would this be something you'd shoot if you had a spare 1/2 day. Likely be a Sunday as it will be during hunting season and we don't hunt on Sundays.

ALSO:

I'm good with scoring figure 11's but the figure 12's confuse me on the hand hold, as a few of us shoot them recreationally and count totals V's and hits with out scoring them.

Scoring competitors is the only things that I don't fully understand and before going to our next meeting I want to be ready so I can follow along.
 
Looks good to me. Vs are a 5 and are used to break ties. If you have a 50 and 10Vs and I have a 50 and 9Vs, you win. If we both get a 50 1V, whomever got the V first wins in a deliberate.
 
Figure 12s have the chin as the point of aim, Fig 11s have the wrist as the point of aim. Both are usually scored V,5,4. Fig 11s have an extra scoring box and Fig 12s need to have a ring drawn inside the 5 ring.
 
Shelldrake said:
Page 57 of the DCRA NSCC rulebook has diagrams of the Fig11 and Fig 12 scoring lines.

http://www.dcra.ca/2014%20docs/2014%20NSCC%20Rulebook%202014-02-06.pdf
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Found the book it answered everything I needed to know on rules and scoring.

I think I can pull off with a few volunteer the 6 stages using 5-6 bays rather quickly. Assuming 24 people with 4 teams of 6. One team in the butts one on the line and 2 in safety area behind the active mounds.

Does that sound right or would you run it differently?
 
SR is normally run with 4 relays.
1 shooting,
1 waiting/prepping,
2 in the butts for target presentations and scoring.

No idea what your range set up is like though so hard to say what is going to work with your facilities.

Are you going to be switching out prepared 4 foots between match 4 and 11 or refacing the 4 ft screens.

When do you plan to cycle relays through to the butts, after the run downs?
 
Bolivar said:
SR is normally run with 4 relays.
1 shooting,
1 waiting/prepping,
2 in the butts for target presentations and scoring.

No idea what your range set up is like though so hard to say what is going to work with your facilities.

Are you going to be switching out prepared 4 foots between match 4 and 11 or refacing the 4 ft screens.

When do you plan to cycle relays through to the butts, after the run downs?
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We have a 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600 yard range although the signs say meters they are yards. With butts and 9 bays.

I would like to run 4 relays of 5-6 shooters. One team in the butts working targets.

Likely have a figure 12 on a 4 footer and a bunch of fig 12's and figure 11's on sticks as we only have 6 target frames.

Basically each relay will run 3 stages move to the butts for scoring and then working targets. 1 relay on the line and the rest waiting.

We practiced tonight and next week we are going to run a 300, 200 and 100 course of fire with run downs.

I need work on my standing and my kneeling.

For kicks we shot the Figure 14's at 300 with AR's man those heads are small with 4x magnification . I think I got 4 out of 15 exposures vs 13/15 with my 308 with big glass and bipod.
 
If you have two relays in the butts, one can score the targets as each stage is completed. Then the shooters can come down and check the targets, sign off score sheets and you have two people patching out then too.

Plus, one of the relays in the butts can cycle out to the waiting position while scoring and patching is being completed.

Having two relays waiting is a waste of man power IMO.

Also a good idea to have the waiting relay sweep brass after the rundown, keeping ahead of it so the final brass sweep can be completed faster.
 
If you have two relays in the butts, one can score the targets as each stage is completed. Then the shooters can come down and check the targets, sign off score sheets and you have two people patching out then too.

Plus, one of the relays in the butts can cycle out to the waiting position while scoring and patching is being completed.

Having two relays waiting is a waste of man power IMO.

Also a good idea to have the waiting relay sweep brass after the rundown, keeping ahead of it so the final brass sweep can be completed faster.
 
Keep in mind communication between butts and firing point is paramount. If your range is hardwired, RAD! If not, be sure to test your radios, and ensure you have batteries for both ends to last all day. Also, a bullhorn at each end of the range will help communication with the shooters/ butts party. I you haven't got any of that gear, consider asking a local electronics store to lend you some and let them set up a booth or hang a banner at your shoot.

Keeping some fresh water available in the butts will score you points with the shooters who are coming in after a rundown too.
 
After the last match the waiting relay picks up brass while the three in the butts score, and put away targets before moving up to pick up brass which should be mostly done by then.
 
I use walki talkies to communicate with butt officer. The AA batteries last a full day - usually. For this reason I have a second pair of radios as back up.

Usually you can tell the battery is dying and can say "Switch to the other radio!" If not, the drill is to try the other radio if the radio does not work.
 
Cool advice,

In 2 weeks we are going to do 4 stages with guys in our club so it will likely be 2 groups of 4. I've been practicing my prone, kneeling and standing. I miss my bipod :)
 
We ran our first practice and it went pretty good. It was nice getting the AR out for a good shoot. Hope to run a short 4 course of fire every month next season.
 
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