A pistol ahead of its time
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Yep, nicely done. Informative and with enough "gun ####" to keep us happy.
A couple of points. When shooting the guns and when pointing out the features and details some tighter closeups would be nice. Also about another 20 to 30 seconds reaching more into the historical origins of the gun and the "why" for some of the features would have added a lot to the video.
A couple of points. When shooting the guns and when pointing out the features and details some tighter closeups would be nice. Also about another 20 to 30 seconds reaching more into the historical origins of the gun and the "why" for some of the features would have added a lot to the video.
Thanks for your suggestions, BCRider.
5440fight, the first thing that struck me about the pistol when I first shot it in the 1980's was that it was so similar to then modern designs. About the only thing it doesn't share with it's modern brethren is a high capacity magazine.
Looking at the design it's actually quite sophisticated yet simple. The Beretta simplifies things a bit more however the similarities are striking between the two pistols. The M92 really is an evolved P38.
5440fight, the first thing that struck me about the pistol when I first shot it in the 1980's was that it was so similar to then modern designs. About the only thing it doesn't share with it's modern brethren is a high capacity magazine.
Looking at the design it's actually quite sophisticated yet simple. The Beretta simplifies things a bit more however the similarities are striking between the two pistols. The M92 really is an evolved P38.
I agree completely. Very thoughtfull design, with great attention to ergonomics, and user safety. Compare it to a tokarev, they look like they are from a different culture, if not century. Little things, like the chamber loaded indicator, double action, unique safety, finger groove grips (as long as your not a lefty, genetic throwback
).
It was so advance & ahead of it's time that the Czech took this pistol and turned it into an assualt rifle that in this peronal opinoin is better than the ak. To understand what I am reffering to here please read this review about the VZ58 locking mechanism:
http://50ae.net/VZ-vs-AK/
http://50ae.net/VZ-vs-AK/
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Shortly after I first started in on handguns, a P-38 was my first centerfire. Brings back memories.
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Hardly see how it is ahead of it's time... I can see how Mauser Broomy was ahead of time or Browning M1900, but P-38.... give me a break. It is a good handgun, but it went nowhere (nobody uses it's design) and even German army dropped it for a number of issues.
For historically minded members, in 1908 a Bohemian gunmaker named Alois Tomiska patented a .25-caliber pistol which included a double-action feature. It was called the Little Tom (after Tomiska's name) and was the first autoloader to use double action. It was never very successful, and in 1929, after the patent expired, Walther introduced their PP pistol, which some say was developed from Tomiska's original patent. The manufacturing rights were sold about 1919 by Tomiska to WienerWaffrenFabrik and the gun (and a .32) was produced by WWF until the mid-1920s, although not very many were ever produced. The Little Tom used a unique magazine (sometimes made of brass) that had no toe on the base plate. When the slide locked open after the last round in a magazine was fired, a loaded magazine could simply be inserted into the magazine well, pushing the empty magazine out the top of the gun. That was a gun truly ahead of its time.
