A pretty rare mosin

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Picked this up a few days ago from a CGN member locally. Nice find on my part, an M91/38. ANY 91/38 is a rare gun in Canada, I've only ever had two (a 1909 Tula I found 11 years ago - documented here: The other 91/38 I had and this one). But this one is a Sestroretsk, all of which are uncommon and in a 91/38, downright rare. Maybe as rare as the 1 chatellerault 91/38 I saw in the USA (?). Hard to say as production figures aren't known for which M91's were cut down and there is no definitive answer on the who/when question.

These are encountered with a little variety. Some have converted M91 stocks in birch or American black walnut that were shortened but retain screwed-in sling slot ezcutcheons, others will have newly made (at time of conversion) stocks of european beech with small circular stamps, about 4mm across, with "KK25" or "KK10" or similar inside the circle. These will have blued pressed-in slot liners.

My older izhevsk had a rebuilt M91 stock, this new find is of the later pattern with a new-made stock from the time of conversion. The handguard is also contemporary with conversion and appears to be made of european walnut.

I've never had one, but these have been found in the US configured as an M44 VERY rarely.

enjoy! :)

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Nice ... Looks like it's in excellent condition.

It is. Only issue when I got it is one of the slot liners was loose, but it was easy to tighten up.

The circle-T mark on the receiver is thought to represent Czech workmanship. All 91/38 carbines have it. The KK10 mark above the circle-T mark is thought to be Bulgarian by some folks - Bulgaria had vast stocks of Mosin carbines in inventory after WW2 and it's thought they might be where these were imported from. The same mark is also seen on ex-bulgarian M95 carbines. The prevailing theory is that the 91/38's were Balkan-owned M91's converted in Czechoslovakia for Bulgarian use, but this is all educated guess work by collectors. I haven't seen documentation on origin to back anything up.
 
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There's no doubt that KK us Bulgarian marking. Means Quality Control.

91/38 is not common, however I saw probably four for sale in the last two years. Not many collectors are after them as well.
 
There's no doubt that KK us Bulgarian marking. Means Quality Control.

91/38 is not common, however I saw probably four for sale in the last two years. Not many collectors are after them as well.

If you have seen 4 for sale, you're a lucky fella :) I've seen two in person, I bought both. I've seen maybe a half dozen advertised that turned out to not be 91/38's when I got photos from the sellers. Most were 91/59's or regular M38's.

The vast majority I have seen are Izhevsk or Tula also.

In terms of pricing, the 1909 Tula I had was $400 back in 2006. I sold it for what I had into it to a local friend. This Sestroretsk was $650 this year, and I'm confident I could make a profit if I sold it on the EE and was willing to ship the gun. Finned Sestroretsk M91's are bringing $650 or so at the local shop and on the EE, and I dare say this is a much rarer gun.

On gunbroker, they are now selling over $1000 US (!).

To be sure, they are a niche item for the advanced Mosin collector. If you just want a carbine, any old M38 with a nice bore is selling in the $400-475 range nowadays. A little less if you don't mind a ratty bore.

In perspective, I was buying nice regular M38's for $125 from P&S militaria around 5 years ago. They have appreciated well.
 
My M38 shoots fanatics it came to me with a crack at the recurve which I repaired. It shoots fairly accurately from 100 yrds and has a brilliant fireball which comes out the end. Easily one of my favorites won't be selling it anytime soon.

Yours looks pretty nice
 
If you have seen 4 for sale, you're a lucky fella :) I've seen two in person, I bought both. I've seen maybe a half dozen advertised that turned out to not be 91/38's when I got photos from the sellers. Most were 91/59's or regular M38's.

Of course I confused 91/59 and 91/38. Now, after some reading, I'm not sure how many of those carbines were /59 or /38. I did not pay real attention as post-war stuff is not of my real interest. However I found in my records I had one year ago, she went to a fellow collector here, pictures tell me it was indeed /38 with short rear sight.











 
Nice find, I regret selling my satellite Mosin M44 collection sometimes. I had the opportunity to purchase 2x 91/38s in the last few weeks and one was a Sestroryetsk so they're definitely around in Canada.
 
Nice find, I regret selling my satellite Mosin M44 collection sometimes. I had the opportunity to purchase 2x 91/38s in the last few weeks and one was a Sestroryetsk so they're definitely around in Canada.

If offered at a good price, it would have been a profitable buy.

They are around, yes, but not easy to find by any means :)
 
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