A Question about PPU 7.65mm ammo I just bought.

[shelley1958]

I recently bought some brand new PPU 7.65mm (32 auto) Parabellum FMJ 93gr, 6,0g ammo. I was hoping to shoot it in my Mauser Hsc and CZ Model 27, but I was surprised to see this ammo was a bit longer then my other 7.65mm (32 auto). It will not go into the magazines for these 2 guns. Its too long. What am I missing here? Is there a 7.65mm long and short?

 

[gewehr76]

93 gr is 30 luger or 7.65x21 parabellum has bottleneck case. for luger pistols
32 acp usually 71 gr or 7.65x17 browning and has straight semi rimmed case. this is the one you need for cz and hsc

 

[bearhunter]

I recently bought some brand new PPU 7.65mm (32 auto) Parabellum FMJ 93gr, 6,0g ammo. I was hoping to shoot it in my Mauser Hsc and CZ Model 27, but I was surprised to see this ammo was a bit longer then my other 7.65mm (32 auto). It will not go into the magazines for these 2 guns. Its too long. What am I missing here? Is there a 7.65mm long and short?

From your description, you purchased 7.65Long or 32 S&W Long.

They will not only be longer, the rim diameter will be slightly larger than the case diameter.

There were both semi autos and revolvers made for that ammo.

 

[shelley1958]

Yeah I finally figured that out yesterday on google. Thanks for messaging.

 

[Potashminer]

I do not own a handgun for these, so went looking on google - what a large number of cartridges with similar name! Not certain if PPU makes all of these - I probably missed several, but found references to 7.65x17, 7.65x20, 7.65x21, 7.65x38 and I do own a couple Argentine rifles chambered for 7.65x53

 

[Shooting Centre]

For reference 7.65 Parabellum is 30 Luger. If you are looking for 32 Auto it would be labeled 7.65 Browning

 

[bearhunter]

I do not own a handgun for these, so went looking on google - what a large number of cartridges with similar name! Not certain if PPU makes all of these - I probably missed several, but found references to 7.65x17, 7.65x20, 7.65x21, 7.65x38 and I do own a couple Argentine rifles chambered for 7.65x53

Mmmmmm 7.65x53 or a 308Win (almost) with a bit of extra case capacity using .311-.312 diameter bullets and at one time considered to be the best bang for the buck by several South American nations, such as Argentina/Peru/Venezuela, as well as South African Boers and European nations like Belgium.

It's been chambered in everything from 1891 Mausers to 1898 Mausers and even a few commercial firearms.

Excellent cartridge.

I had a 308Win on a Remington 700SA with a large chamber, mostly up in the shoulder and neck area.

Brian Oldfield had a 7.65x53 reamer and we cleaned out the chamber, whithout removing the barrel.

Brian wanted to show me how it was done.

I used the 7.65x53 die set but swapped out the expander ball for the .3075.

In a modern rifle, this cartridge really has a significant edge over the 308Win, with 180+ grain bullets.

Sorry OP, don't want to derail your thread.

 

[gewehr76]

op 30 cal parabellum pistols generally go for 2-3k