I will be becoming a BC resident for next years hunting season, so I picked up a set of regs and was reading through them. There is absolutely no mention of grizzly anywhere in the regs, I know there is legal grizzly hunting here, so where does one glean this information if there is no mention of them in the general regs?
A question for experienced and informed BC hunters......
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LEH Only.
You need the LEH regs for next year, which are not published yet.
Here's this year's: http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife/hunting/resident/docs/leh_14_15.pdf
You need the LEH regs for next year, which are not published yet.
Here's this year's: http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife/hunting/resident/docs/leh_14_15.pdf
Its all limited entry hunting (LEH) Douglas. The 'papers' come out fairly early in the new year to show areas, number of draws, odds, etc. You should be able to find the LEH info on their site here : http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife/hunting/regulations/
edit- scooped by ironsighter! lol
edit- scooped by ironsighter! lol
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mooseherding
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This is most certainly true.
Although a family friend pulled an LEH out of Knights Inlet (Coastal, BC) and had no trouble filling her tag.
A co-worker has pulled a grizzly LEH tag three years running near Kamloops as well. (Hasn't found the time to fill it in any of the years)
Ok then that tells me all I need to know..........next question, I have never heard of odds coming off at less than 1:1, what the hell does that mean when the odds are 0.5:1 etc? Does that mean one is pretty much guaranteed to draw in? My assumption is that only half the tags allotted for that subzone are applied for, is this correct?
Yes. There is a portion of the LEH card which you can check to have a chance at an undersubscribed hunt of the same species. In that case you get a first choice, second choice and a possibility of getting an undersubscribed tag.
OK GH so if I understand you, one may only draw for one or the other season..........a draw for spring bear does not allow one to hunt there in the fall as well, whether or not he has filled his tag.......correct? But you are saying in these under applied for areas that a person can draw a tag EVERY year? Things are very different from Yukon, where there is vast areas where not all permits are applied for, why don't they just open it for general hunting? Makes no sense to me.........however it's good to know regardless. I have seen some absolute monster grizzlies in a remote area in northern BC, good to know the odds are less than 1:1 in that zone, I WILL be paying them a visit in the next couple of years...........
Well, sort of. The thing you have to keep in mind is that the odds are listed from the previous year. If they were 0.5:1 last year, that doesn't always guarantee that you will get it. In fact, your chances are lower because a lot of people are going to pile on to that "guaranteed" draw. If you think about it strategically and look at the odds from previous years, you might see a pattern.
If you want a "guarantee", then X-out the "substitute hunt" box on the LEH card. But even then, if the hunts are fully subscribed you are SOL.
EDIT: and .284 beat me to it.
I wish you luck, but I will note that every grizzly is a monster, in my opinion.
In attitude you may be right but not in size..........these are both I'm told by a man who used to work in the area, extremely aggressive bears and many topping 10 feet.....basically coastal bears who have almost never been hunted. Access is extremely difficult and could be very expensive if you don't have the right connections, I'll have to follow the draws and see if this area is up and down in the numbers as has been suggested. Ah regardless I'm gonna put in and if it takes a couple or three years it's not the end of the world, it's only a week hunt in the spring, doesn't require a whole sh!t load of preparation and planning.........not like I'm hunting anything else in the spring.
BigUglyMan
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Wait a sec...Douglas and Clarke getting along in the same thread? You guys will be sharing a hunting camp before long. Do I see a 9.3-300WM/375 Ruger group hunt in the making?
I respect information being given by the informed and I appreciate it when it's on point as it was. Beyond that all I have to say is let's not get carried away with assumptions...........I wouldn't use the 9.3X300 WM for those bears, c'mon, I would likely lean heavily towards the 416 Rigby and I'd likely take the 470 along in case a follow up situation occurred. I might just take my H&H or the 375 Wby, I wouldn't feel undergunned with either of them. I would be using either 300 gn A-frames or Parts in the Wby..........them coastal bears can take an astronomical amount of killing, especially if they are aware of your presence, much different than if you have the drop on them. If I were to use the 9.3X300 WM I'd be working up a heavier bullet load, looking for greater penetration and the ability to smash both shoulders on a bear this size. Not saying I wouldn't use a Matrix but something more in the 300+ gn neighborhood, same in the 375s...........I still think the Rigby would be the best medicine, these bears approaching 1/2 ton are not to be trifled with and are not to be taken lightly. I know a 300 Wby 200 gn AB in the boiler room will most certainly kill them, it's the time from bullet impact to completely incapacitated that bothers me. It is beyond belief what can happen in 30 seconds with an enraged grizzly weighing in at close to 1/2 ton. I much prefer the BANG/WOP/FLOP program when dealing with bears in this size range.
Regardless GHs response was directly on point to the question asked and good information for the uninitiated in BC game laws, such as myself.
Regardless GHs response was directly on point to the question asked and good information for the uninitiated in BC game laws, such as myself.
Every year there are undersubscribed grizzly hunts in remote areas of BC. You see that with the .5-1 odds from the previous year. Few applied, fewer still went, even fewer killed a bear.
On an LEH application form there is a box to tick if you are applying for a grizz tag and you feel adventurous. Basically you apply for the hunt you WANT and tick the box too. If you don't get your draw but there are undersubscribed tags available in the Region you applied for, they will give you this tag.
All undersubscribed hunts have the same issue- access. The other, secondary issue is hunter interest. The remote areas are time consuming and expensive to get to, and most hunters have limited time and money and are most interested in putting a moose in the freezer. A guy like you with time and $$$ can probably get some sort of grizz draw quite often if you are willing to take whatever is thrown at you.
