A sampling of wheel weights in Edmonton

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There is an auto repair shop 2 doors down from my office just off Argyll Road in Edmonton, they do a little a tire work as part of their services. When I first encountered them they didn’t have a solid plan for their wheel weights, there had been a guy picking them up sporadically but he wasn’t reliable, so the manager said I could have them if I made sure they were always left with a bucket to throw them into. No problem.

I like to work with the half size poly pails, usually 10-12 litre size, as they are about as big as they can be and still manageable to lift and move by hand when full. I get them from supermarket bakeries, as pie filling, cake icing and garlic butter are commonly packed in these pails. I pick up the weights twice a year, after the winter tires go on and come off. Usually I get a half pail or even less, but the shop must have had a banner spring, because when I went into the shop last week the pail was nearly full. I took them a half dozen doughnuts and a 20 pack of Timbits in appreciation for the haul:
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Today I hand sorted the weights, and thought I would share the results:

Clip on weights that appear to be lead alloy: 23.8kg

Stick on weights that appear to be soft lead: 5.8kg

Weights that appear to be non-lead: 9.0kg

There is a lot of current worry about the loss of wheel weights as an economical source of lead for our bullets, but that’s a decent bucket full and it is still three-quarters lead based.

As I have found previously, the vast majority of the non-toxic weights are iron based, and they are usually visually distinctive, so that once you know what you’re looking for, they are pretty easy to weed out without having to check each one with pliers or a magnet. It helps that most of the various types are clearly marked “Fe”.
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What was a new development to me was the appearance of significant numbers of zinc weights. As much as I’ve seen people lament over these for years, I’ve never seen more than a half dozen in a bucket before, and considered them something of a novelty. But this bucket had lots of them. Fortunately, as with the iron weights they were easy to spot as being a little different shape, and clearly marked as zinc:
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You are very lucky

the last pail I bought $40 was about 50% lead and 50% steel /junk and zinc and this was 2 years ago.

The last time they wanted $80 for a pail -- I said no and walked away -- they said the going rate was $1 a pound
 
The last time my son picked up wheel weights he got 2 1/2 buckets. This was in May.
The breakdown was
447 lbs total
285lbs clip on lead
42lbs stick on lead
70 lbs Zn Fe or plastic
50 lbs clips removed during melting into ingots

So 327 lbs lead out of 447 lbs of unprocessed wheel weights.

We will take that ratio.
 
There are a lot of negative comments about using zinc for casting bullets. I have used it in pure and mixed form and so far haven't seen any actual difference when shooting them as far as WW and No 2 alloy goes.

It does require a bit of experimenting to get the heat right and zinc doesn't require any tin in the mix. At least now with low velocity bullets used in the 45acp. It is harder and as such doesn't obdurate as well so needs to be cast/sized accordingly. It definitely needs to be lubed properly and any residues left behind are more difficult than lead to remove. I really like them for patched round balls and paper patched bullets.

They can however cause some serious foaming issues when overheated, especially when mixed with lead.

If you're uncomfortable about using it though or don't have the time to experiment, stick with what you know.
 
Interesting thread.

Squirrelled away 4 buckets of WW for when I have welded my big bottom pour melting pot.
They are about 100 lbs each.

Sorting seems like a whole lot of work (and dirty job too) so I just picked out the easy to spot FE and stick-on lead ones.
Plan in dumping everything else in the melting pot and with the help of the pid thermometer skim off everything that
floats on top of the molten lead.

Question for guys that also do it this way; after you are done with the lead ingot making do you dump the skimmed stuff back in the pot
and heat up to zinc melting point to make zinc ingots that you can sell again at the scrap yard for zinc price instead of getting mixed scrap price?
Just wondering if that would make sense.
 
myself I melt in a furnace, melt the lead first into ingots, turn the temperature up and melt zinc, I cast the zinc into ingots, got a couple hundred pounds thus far, waiting until I find a use for them
 
Believe me, that won't take much to melt at all, not for BattleRife

HaHa, nope, it wouldn't. I've actually got four pails almost full now, it would be nice to get 2 or even 4 more before I bother firing up the old lead machine. It just doesn't seem worth it for anything less than 200kg.


There are a lot of negative comments about using zinc for casting bullets...If you're uncomfortable about using it though or don't have the time to experiment, stick with what you know.

Interesting that people are playing with it more, I guess it makes sense when some are finding the quantity of zinc they do. For me, like I said this is the first time I've ever seen more than a few weights in a pail, and even now I would guess the total mass collected isn't more than one kilo. I could see these having good potential for something like slingshot ammo for kids, but given the quantities I get I don't see a reason to bother.
 
I'm starting to collect wheel weights from work . I drive a mixer and the new tire repair guys leave the odd one on the ground. I want to start casting in the future . and the idea of makeing buckshot out of the zinc is a great idea. I wonder if it would work good for smooth bore slugs also .
 
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