a sneak peek at Canada's first custom composite, precision M14 stock, with new pics

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some of you will remember a few weeks back a thread with a very rough stock that was dubbed the "ninja pirate stock" lol , and most folks mistook it for a modified M1 garand stock

it was my back shop wall :D and it is indeed an M14 stock
so here is a sneak peek at progress so far on the new ICRW M14SA2 Hunter Tactical custom composite precision m14 stock.
bear in mind what you are looking at is an incomplete prototype and was fitted to an action and painted just for the photos. there are some obvious blemishes and a couple features on the complete version that are not shown in the pics. Production starts shortly and these will be availlable pretty quick.
I may only make them to order, we'll see, it is not a simple process.
the action inlet and receiver/triggger bearing surfaces are a carbon copy of an un-issued usgi fiberglass stock.

so here ya go, here's some progress pics
(thx to Satain for hosting these pics so i could post them...... my dial up internet sux)
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what exactly to do with the butt pad area has had me stumped for a bit now.
I have 2 for clients near complete and was thinking a pachmayer decelorator but it not sure if i'm going to find one to fit the profile i need. I can make it fit the standard buttplate or preferably a M1A rubber buttpad.... and this is probably the route i will take for the production version. then the question of do I or can I make the combo tool/cleaning kit holes...... and i could but i might not hehehe

I will be imbedding and aluminum strip in the forestock, not for stiffening but instead for custom drill and tap applications for those wanting sling swivel studs or removeable rail options under the stock.

the buttstock in general is shaped in such a way that on the bench or with a bipod in prone, one can utilize the contour of the rear of the stock for a hand hold during precision shooting. I will also have an aluminum strip imbedded at the bottom of the rear flat of the buttstock to again afford drill and tap features for sling swivel studs or monopod mounts ;)

the flat and parallel to the bore forestock is widened and flared and will be excellent for those shooting off the sand bags.

the mag well area has a significant slope, affording an exceptionally comfortable hand hold, flowing nicely into a 5/20 round mag for those who like a just ahead of the mag shooting grip. the magazine area contour also affords use of the 5 round shorty mag, with nothing of the mag protruding. this is especially geared to the hunter who wants a system that is less snaggy in the field. there is ample room to grasp the shorty mag for simple insert and removal.

I'll have more details and hopefully much better photos of the finished product very shortly.
 
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How about the use of the shotgun recoil pad's for the rear of the stock?
E.G. SuperCel or other's. Is this possible?
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once the new M14SA2 is into production I will be taking the design in a new direction. i'm thinkin adjustable butt pad, adjustable cheek rest and I am toying with a full length aluminum action bedding block...... but this is down the road several months and obviously it will be a high end price point.

the current m14SA2 that you see in development here will run in the 500.00 ball park, but i can not give you all a final price just yet. Anyone wishing to get on a list for when these come availlable (weeks from now) please email me (do not p.m.)
 
Satain said:
How about the use of the shotgun recoil pad's for the rear of the stock?
E.G. SuperCel or other's. Is this possible?
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just need to get my mitts on one and i can tell ya hehehehe ;)
I've ordered some pachmayers from brownells but the package is taking WAY longer than normal to get here, and i'm itchin to release this stock to the masses..... so i may just go with the standard buttplate mounting detail.

for those asking about scope mount and other accessories i have been endeavoring to release..... progress is slow. It's all about finances, and as you can see, a fricken boat load of my resources are tied up in my stock production end of things. I've been in discussions with a reputable CNC outfit currently working on other m14 related projects, that has offered to work with me on these projects for small runs to start. I'm putting together a package of drawings and prototypes to send off to them shortly. Hopefully this extraordinarily long and frustrating road to bring these items to market will come to an end soon hehehehe
 
I was going to say before Thomas posted again, that for a heavy target oriented stock, I'm surprised that an adjustable cheek piece and LOP butt isn't in the design.

This of course can be done simple, effective as a saddle(kydex) style cheek piece and butt spacers or more elaborate like a solid adjustable half-stock with metal hardware.

Also, I'm curious why the fore-end is tapered since it would require the rail to be counter-tapered to make it properly horizontal.

What is the purpose of the flared area surrounding the magwell?
 
Winz said:
I was going to say before Thomas posted again, that for a heavy target oriented stock, I'm surprised that an adjustable cheek piece and LOP butt isn't in the design.

This of course can be done simple, effective as a saddle(kydex) style cheek piece and butt spacers or more elaborate like a solid adjustable half-stock with metal hardware.

Also, I'm curious why the fore-end is tapered since it would require the rail to be counter-tapered to make it properly horizontal.

What is the purpose of the flared area surrounding the magwell?
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i'm not really a fan of the kydex cheek rests, however, i have a massive supply of kydex and the ability to provide saddle style adjustable cheek rests, pics were posted a long time ago but i stopped production when a lttle bird clued me in that S&J and tac pro were releasing thiers..... did we really need another kydex cheek rest hehehehe, my energies got directed elsewhere ;)

the idea of using a standard rifle recoil pad and not the typical m14 buttplate was to be able to offer adjustable LOP by use of kydex spacers. I would prefer to go this route, but i need a steady supply of buttpads, either from brownells or a canadian supplier, at a wholesale rate.

the forend is not tapered, although it may appear that way in the photo. It does taper from the top of the stock edge, out and away. the bottom however is/will be perfectly parrallel to the bore on the finished production stock.

the mag well area is designed as it is simply for ergonomics and to allow a flush fit with a short 5 round mag for field applications. Many shooters i see grip the stock very near the magazine area. the slope and profile of this part of the stock allow for a much nicer feel and improved grip in general over other stocks on the market.

one thing i did not mention is the butt of the stock has been moved significantly higher than a standard m14 stock profile. This changes the recoil profile of the rifle as the bore is now in line with the shoulder.

I will have a look at what is commercially availlable for adjustable cheek rests without going to kydex...... BUT if someone wants a kydex riser as an option....... or LOP adjustment as an option....... this can all be done.

this is why i was thinking of offering these stocks on a made to order basis.
Yes, it would take some time, but in the end you get a custom stock made exactly to your specs.

for those who may not want the mag well profile seen here, i will also be offering the same M14SA2 stock in a standard forestock configuration, and it will look just like the M14SA2 i was making from usgi fiberglass stocks.


being able to offer custom composite stocks, either "ready for sale" production versions or custom made to order versions has been and is my goal. The long road and hard work has brought me to the point where that goal is now reality ;)
 
bigbush said:
soo...what about custom colours... like this

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LOL ....... hard pressed to find pink paint or heart stencils in my shop :D
but hey..... if it's really what you want LOL

I plan to use arma coat firearm finishes on my new production stocks and will be adding the process to my shop capabilities shortly.
 
M14Doctor said:
i'm not really a fan of the kydex cheek rests, however, i have a massive supply of kydex and the ability to provide saddle style adjustable cheek rests, pics were posted a long time ago but i stopped production when a lttle bird clued me in that S&J and tac pro were releasing thiers..... did we really need another kydex cheek rest hehehehe, my energies got directed elsewhere ;)

I will have a look at what is commercially availlable for adjustable cheek rests without going to kydex...... BUT if someone wants a kydex riser as an option....... or LOP adjustment as an option....... this can all be done.
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Thomas, I only mention the kydex cheekpieces and buttspacers+standard buttpad as effective cheaper alternatives that can be offered and easily fielded minus the weight and expense.

For a dedicated precision stock on a target rifle, I'd like to see something more like a proper embedded cheekpiece lifter such as:

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the idea of using a standard rifle recoil pad and not the typical m14 buttplate was to be able to offer adjustable LOP by use of kydex spacers. I would prefer to go this route, but i need a steady supply of buttpads, either from brownells or a canadian supplier, at a wholesale rate.
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Again, buttspacers are easy, which I like but a hardcore target model could go with something like this:

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one thing i did not mention is the butt of the stock has been moved significantly higher than a standard m14 stock profile. This changes the recoil profile of the rifle as the bore is now in line with the shoulder.
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It is hard to tell from the pics you posted since there isn't a direct profile pic of the rifle. I really like the vertical necking of the grip(which I have also done on a project).

How much higher is the comb? How much effect does it have on using standard ironsights(moot point since a target rifle of this nature is probably scoped, but entertain me please)? ie if one were to transition to irons, would one end up goosenecking sideways to see?
 
ya, but what was the extension cord for? :p
Doc, you say the butt is inline with the bore? Will this help reduce muzzle rise while firing? I too am wondering if irons are still useable, its nice to have a quick close range zero in the bush when ninja deer come out of the woodwork. Very nice stock either way, paint it desert tan and I'll add it to my "must have" list!
 
If I can add half a cent of input... :cheers:

put TWO front sling posts in that stock for standard after-market bi-pods. Any rifle I would use for tactical and/or range target shooting will have two in the stock or I would end up installing a second one.
 
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