A study in Soviet Mosins and Accessories

Not a bayonet---but an Ssh-36 Russian helmet that was probably relined in Leningrad during the siege.

Forum response from Michael Baskette on the 'War Relics' Forum in Europe –former U.S. sales manager for Ostfront.

The helmet is an interesting example... It is not an M39 liner exactly, but what you might call an M39 style liner. You find Ssh-36 and 39 helmets from time to time that have been relined with this liner system. While superficially similar to the Ssh-39 liner, they are not constructed the same as a factory Ssh-39 liner.

Why were they relined? The helmets were relined due to damage or having the original liners removed for winter wear. These liners are all very similar in construction and material make up. Likely they were all done at a single depot location. It is possible that because of the use of crude material and the non-standard construction and installation that these type helmets were relined in Leningrad during the siege.

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Russian helmet "Kaska" Mod. 1936. This was the helmet used by Red Army at the beginning of WW2.
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A photo where the guns are the 'props' for the helmet.

 
As an aside, I located a relic condition alternate type screwdriver with pin protrusion gauges that, once it get here, will be added to the pin protrusion tool types above :)

I'll also be soon posting the major sling variations. Hopefully someone is finding these things useful.
 
Updated with a pile of new stuff, including:

-issue headspace gauges
-the leather simplified pouch
-artificial leather unified pouches
-the 91/30 sling variants
-cardboard ammunition packets
-The alternate screwdriver with pin notches
-the early variant tubular cleaning kit

I hope you all find this helpful. Special thanks to Ratnik (Alex Yuschenko) who has been helping me source some of the items I was missing from my collection, thereby letting me show them to you all :)
 
omfg. Could it be Cliff Claven #2 ??

Such a wealth of information, and quite interesting! We all spend so much time on the rifles themselves, and not so much on the accoutrements.

Thank you for sharing all your research, and obviously, hard work.

Now, you have effectively handed me a sentence, to be served immediately, to sort through all my Sovietski sh1te and see what's what...
 
chofo said:
omfg. Could it be Cliff Claven #2 ??

Such a wealth of information, and quite interesting! We all spend so much time on the rifles themselves, and not so much on the accoutrements.

Thank you for sharing all your research, and obviously, hard work.

Now, you have effectively handed me a sentence, to be served immediately, to sort through all my Sovietski sh1te and see what's what...
Click to expand...

Accoutrements make the milsurp game so much more full of an experience. Definitely give them a try :) Some of them are rather pricey and rare in their own right, moreso than the guns are at times.
 
I've decided I'm going to add in some basic information about the soviet era rifles and carbines over the coming days as well. Hopefully it will make this post more useful for people. Just added the typical carbines found in Canada.
 
sorry for the necro thread bump. FWIW, I'm selling some of the harder to get soviet stuff shown here on the bay in case anyone is trying to source the rarer bits :)
 
Can someone point me to evidence that those Artillery school carbines are actually that?

I've talked with someone who thoroughly examined the collection at the Museum of Artillery Engineers and Signal Corps in St Petersburg, as well as has written multiple academic pieces about Mosins, (including a study of the 1910 Carbine) and they've never encountered any evidence to support that origin theory.
If I remember correctly the school was for officer training and courses did not include marksmanship, especially with uniquely modified carbines not issued to troops.
 
I found this thread from a few years ago and thought to myself... man I used to have a sh!t-ton of mosin stuff. Wish I still had all of it, it's all gone way up in value now - lol.
 
Thanks for this thread Claven. I'll play. Borrowed this info from 7.62x54r: "The Civil Guard improved on the M27 with a stronger front barrel band and designated it the M28. These are marked on the barrel shank with SY, an abbreviation for Suojeluskuntain Yliesikunta (Civil Guard). Barrels were purchased from SIG and marked so under the woodline. They were also produced at Tikkakoski and marked on top with a T in a triangle. Some early rifles are found with two sling slots, one over the other, in the butt and are known as “ski troopers”. M28s are dated on the bottom of the barrel with 27, 28, or 29 in a small box." My example here, is a later model.

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I want to add some items from my collection, and I hope that Claven2 is OK with it.
1. I came into possession of this 1946-made Mosin leather sling. The cool part is that somebody repaired it at some point with two pieces joined together. Both parts bear what appears to be the same stamp; one is faded away, and the other is nice and crisp(unless the previous owner did the job himself...lol)
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2. An uncommon bayonet produced(not refurbished as Claven2 stated earlier) by GAU Arsenal number 3 in Tbilisi(railroad station Navtlugi, back in the day, located on the outskirts of the Capital of the Georgian SSR). Bears a circle in a triangle stamp(not to be confused with Izhevsk). My photographic skills and my iPhone suck, but you should be able to see that distinct stamp.
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