Accuracy of slugs in a coach gun
- Thread starter bhunts
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One of the barrels may be on. Most of the time, both barrels are shooting far from each other. Unless you put on some kind of sighting system on it and use one barrel as the dedicated slug barrel, 50 yards can definitely be a stretch. It really depends on the each individual shotgun though and it must be tested to be sure.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Prior to my trip to Africa I got a short double 12 with open chokes so I could develop some level of comfort with a double gun knowing that I would be hunting with a double rifle. After hearing how it was not possible for a cheap double to print both barrels to the point of aim I was pleasantly surprised to see that out to 50 yards the slug hit if not into the same hole then right next to each other. If it was a fluke gun, it served its purpose, and now I wish I had kept it, but I'm not much of a double gun enthusiast.
- Location
- Southern MB
I got a Baikal IZH-43KH, 20" barrels, both are cylinder I believe. From one box of 5 slugs, got about a 1 foot group@ 25 yards, shot freehand, with just the bead sight. The difference between each barrel is what killed it.
Groups of the same barrel would have been ~3-4 inches at 25 yards freehand with bead.
Groups of the same barrel would have been ~3-4 inches at 25 yards freehand with bead.
I have never had a problem hitting a 24" square target with slugs at 50 yards with my coachgun (Rossi Overland), but lets face it, pinpoint accuracy is not likely with slug/short barrel musket like gun. A 1 foot group at 25 yards with a bead sight is acceptable in my opinion.
hvmetalhead
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- Location
- St. Paul AB
i hit a steel gong at 200m with a rifle slug. It was a hell of a shot and it only took me 8 "sighting" shots to hit it.
The only way to find out is to try it, but most double shotguns aren't properly regulated to have both barrels shoot to the same point. This is the probably the biggest reason why double rifles are so expensive.
Incidentally, double rifles aren't regulated to have both barrels converge at a certain range, but rather to make up for the recoil which is offset from the centreline of the gun. If the barrels were parallel, the right barrel would tend to shoot to the right of the line of sight and the left barrel to the left. Likewise, an over and under would tend to shoot high and low groups from its barrels.
Incidentally, double rifles aren't regulated to have both barrels converge at a certain range, but rather to make up for the recoil which is offset from the centreline of the gun. If the barrels were parallel, the right barrel would tend to shoot to the right of the line of sight and the left barrel to the left. Likewise, an over and under would tend to shoot high and low groups from its barrels.
That is about as good as I go with my .357 mag Ruger GP 100. Probably mroe like 1 in 10 though.
As for slugs, I average about 14" at 50 yards with a Stoeger/IGA Uplander with 28" barrels and Mod Mod chokes.
It is called uplander for a reason, fine for wingshooting and birdshot/clays, but for slugs get a pump.
- Location
- Southern MB
Hmmm... is that maybe why SXS's my group was fairly wide? Interesting.
I can usually hit what I'm aiming at at 50 yards with my slug gun. It has dedicated sights though, so that helps.
With regards to a barrel printing left/right of point of impact, there is often a way to "tune" this, using the gun's recoil:
Say your right barrel is printing "right" of the target. Lower your powder charge. If the right barrel is printing "left" of the target, increase your powder charge. This of course inreases recoil and will cause the gun to move slightly right, moving your sighted POI slightly in the process.
@50 yards: (two on the right are right barrel, two on the left, left barrel. Please don't slam my shooting too much, this was when I tested my "crazy" copper slugs, and was shooting off-hand. Nerves were a little frazzled)
My girl
With regards to a barrel printing left/right of point of impact, there is often a way to "tune" this, using the gun's recoil:
Say your right barrel is printing "right" of the target. Lower your powder charge. If the right barrel is printing "left" of the target, increase your powder charge. This of course inreases recoil and will cause the gun to move slightly right, moving your sighted POI slightly in the process.
@50 yards: (two on the right are right barrel, two on the left, left barrel. Please don't slam my shooting too much, this was when I tested my "crazy" copper slugs, and was shooting off-hand. Nerves were a little frazzled)
My girl
if you turn it sideways, gangsta style
aiming at the top left circle....
