accuracy

If you are a good shot, maybe 4 inch groups at 100 yards.Some people claim 2 inches, with some of the russian SKS's.I would say 4-6 inch groups would be average, with the odd flyer.The limitations of this gun is it's loose tolerances and crappy ammo.To get better than 4 inch groups you would probably have to roll your own cartridges.These guns are a cheap, sloppy made, crude, but go bang when you pull the trigger.They are a lot of fun though.They aren't collecter items, so buy one and shoot the living hell out of it.Some here will call them collector items.They are the same ones that collected popsicle sticks, and candy wrappers, when they were kids.Real valuable now.
 
For sloppy shooters with ill fitting stocks and bad form expect 4" groups at 100 meters.

For the rest of us that take the time to learn how to shoot this carbine, practice proper rifle shooting form, and adjust the stock length to suit the North American in a T-shirt frame I'd say 2" and even 1" groups at 100 meters.
 
Chopper 1 on this board said to get better groups for his VZ858 he would batch his surplus M43 ammo into groups of bullets that were of similar weight. Makes sense. I'm not sure of how much variation in cartridge weights there is, but it seems to work for him. Good idea if you have a scale and some time on your hands.
 
friend of mine says his does produce 1.6" average groups. Honestly that is the only reason I am buying one. 4-5" groups @100 isn't fun.
 
22lr said:
friend of mine says his does produce 1.6" average groups. Honestly that is the only reason I am buying one. 4-5" groups @100 isn't fun.
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He's probably lying unless he's handloading for it. If 4 moa is unacceptable, and you intend to shoot surplus ammo, you shouldn't buy an SKS.
 
Calum said:
For sloppy shooters with ill fitting stocks and bad form expect 4" groups at 100 meters.

For the rest of us that take the time to learn how to shoot this carbine, practice proper rifle shooting form, and adjust the stock length to suit the North American in a T-shirt frame I'd say 2" and even 1" groups at 100 meters.
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1" at 100 yards or 1 MOA for a SKS!
I bet even the late Simonov likes to see the proof of your shooting accomplishment.
What do you mean by the "North American in a T-shirt frame"?
Last time I checked, many different races inhabit north America and many are intelligent to dress up in winter.
 
Stevo said:
He's probably lying unless he's handloading for it. If 4 moa is unacceptable, and you intend to shoot surplus ammo, you shouldn't buy an SKS.
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I agree with you on your accuracy statement. SKS is not designed as an accurate sniping rifle.
But I do not agree with your advise not to buy. It is a very fun rifle to have and shoot. Accuracy is just one aspect of the shooting sports.

Cheers
 
batch milsurp ammo

Steiner said:
Chopper 1 on this board said to get better groups for his VZ858 he would batch his surplus M43 ammo into groups of bullets that were of similar weight. Makes sense. I'm not sure of how much variation in cartridge weights there is, but it seems to work for him. Good idea if you have a scale and some time on your hands.
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also by overall length - so they headspace the same:)
 
About 3 to 5 minutes of angle

Limiting factors

No decent scope mounting options, and the sights are for combat not diopter for competition.

Trigger tends to be two stage long heavy and gritty. Definitely not a 2 ounce trigger on a target rifle.


it does not have a heavy barrel and printed action.

It does not have a 15 lb stock.

Safe to say it is not a benchrest rifle. However it is a lot of fun.
 
All good points. Some things that people try to remedy these:

jasonburnsdundee said:
Limiting factors

No decent scope mounting options, and the sights are for combat not diopter for competition.
Mojo sights, Tech sights, Choate scope mount, Kalinka Molot mount
Don't try scoping with reciever cover mounts that mount scope to them

Trigger tends to be two stage long heavy and gritty. Definitely not a 2 ounce trigger on a target rifle.
Kivarri trigger modification

it does not have a heavy barrel and printed action.

It does not have a 15 lb stock.

Safe to say it is not a benchrest rifle. However it is a lot of fun.
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....but it is fun rifle, and ammo is well priced at this time. I haven't tried the above mods, but just thought I'd mention them.
 
If you cast and reload try the Lee 312 155 bullet over 2400, 4227 or WC735. I managed five shot groups under 1" at 50 yards. Waiting for the last of the snow to go from our range and we will see what mine will do at 100yds. Gun seems to prefer 155 gr bullets over lighter jacketed surplus ammo. Using surpkus at 50 yardss target looks like I was shooting a shotgun.

I have also added a Ramline monte carlo stock to my gun. The stock that came with the gun fit well but was to short for me even with winter clothing. No offense to the Chinese but their soldiers must be somewhat shorter than my height of 5' 10".

Take Care

Bob
 
Cast bullets worked very well. I did cast for the sks and was happy with the results. However surplus is almost as cheap as casting and reloading. While not as accurate as a cast bullet the sights are graduated for the trajectory of the ball round. If cheap surplus dries up then I would start casting again for the sks.
 
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Ironsight said:
1" at 100 yards or 1 MOA for a SKS!
I bet even the late Simonov likes to see the proof of your shooting accomplishment.
What do you mean by the "North American in a T-shirt frame"?
Last time I checked, many different races inhabit north America and many are intelligent to dress up in winter.
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Russian winter coats circa 1940 are very thick.

Chinese battle coats circa 1940-1970 were also thick, and the Chinese were allot smaller then.

As for proof...

My first SKS, Pinned barrel 1980 vintage, original chu wood stock, bayonet lug ground off.

5 shots of Czech surplus at 100 yards, benched.
First 2 flyer's as I got used to the short stock, and the Iron sights.
The next 3 are the ones in black. :)

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I haven't tried my 1966 SKS yet.
 
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