Accurate AR15 - need advice :)

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Hi guys,

I'm looking into getting an AR15 platform rifle. Back in the day while serving for IDF, I did like my Colt version, and it was a nice and accurate rifle.
However, after recent research I have learned about the differences between 1 in 7 and 1 in 9 and so on rifling.
I prefer to go with the 1 in 7 and maybe buy a cheap Norinco as well for when I shoot cheap ammo. The reason I want to get a decent AR15 is because as soon as ISPC will have their next black badge course, I intend on taking it and maybe compete every now and then.

When looking for available options I really loved the Sig Sauer M400 Enhanced, and it's 1 in 7, and priced reasonably. I don't want to buy a gun this year, and then after a couple of competitions realize I have made a mistake and worry about buying another one. So the idea is to get a decent one that will 'serve' me for some time.

I would love to get feedback and opinions about the M400. If anyone had the experience of shooting several 'decent' ARs, and you are a freak such as myself (who keeps record of grouping and such) I would love to hear which in your experience was the most accurate?

I know generally ARs are accurate, and even with my Cold AR15 I was deadly from up to 500 yards (no scope) or further using optics, but a head shot is within 5-6 inch diameter, which is not a good grouping :) So, kind of a newbie here and will appreciate any piece of advice.

Budgeted ~$1500 for this project. Will pay the extra $$ if it's worthwhile.

What are you guys suggesting?

Thanks guys,

Aviad
 
Here's a pic of my reach out and touch paper AR15 I built.

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Heres a link to my build thread about it.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...nd-Build-An-AR15-***-ITS-FINISHED-***-POST-42
 
First off, its a very nice gun. From reading your post I've seen you put a lot of thought into your build.

Secondly, I would LOVE doing one myself. The problem is I am eager to get a gun, and I'm affraid completing a build that will stand to a high standard will take several months for the very least.

Is there a book or other good source of information for building an AR15? I wouldn't want to just YouTube it and trust their knowledge or get a 'package' if I'm building. I don't know the first thing about building one.

How long did it take you to complete the project, including the research?

Aviad
 
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Actually I watched a lot of YouTube videos and collected lots of info from other forums on assembly. In total it was 2 months from start to finish for ordering parts. Actually assembly time was several hours. It really is a fantastic rifle to build yourself. It's simple and quick to do with the simplest of tools.

By building it I made it my rifle the way I wanted it instead of wasting money buying a complete rifle and modifying it from there. Best advice I could give is maybe buy something cheap, shoot it, learn how it functions, take it apart and put it back together. Then look at building your own.
 
Okay I have did some online research, and found some good sources of information. Even still I plan on buying several books to cover the theory & logic behind building my AR.
I'm sure putting it together won't be too complicated, I just need to know how to chose my parts, and where can I get them.

For choosing my parts I decided to get the Patrick Sweeny book, and I'm thinking of maybe getting another one, just so I'd be able to have advice from two experts.

Where do you get parts in Canada? Is any of our lovely sponsors sell the parts I require for the build?

Thanks,

Aviad
 
Arms East, Questar, Canadian Tactical Cowboy Supply, One Shot Tactical are all fantastic contributing dealers here that I've bought parts from.

Avoid anything NEA aka North Eastern Arms, the quality is not there for a precision rifle build in my opinion.
 
Shalom Aviad!

I would recommend looking at a DD M4v7 in 5.56N. Since you're former IDF, You'd be familiar with the classic M4 four pos stock, but I'd recommend switching up to a SOPMOD stock and running a Nightforce 3-9×50 scope set up in mildot to keep it familiar.

-S.
 
Shalom Pilgrim!

I will look into this gun you suggested, I couldn't care less about the 4 pos / 6 pos / 20 pos. In my mind, there are only two - closed for when you carry, open when you shoot... he he. Never in my life have I used any other pos than fully pulled or fully pushed.

Thanks,

Aviad
 
Okay so I have made my mind. Or I have decided not to decide yet... hehehehe

Since I am in no rush in any mean to get the AR15, and since I have other projects in mind with all the recent holiday specials I will get something else for now. What I want to do is go to the gun show and get all the parts over there, kind of 'one stop shop' for me, and in worse case scenario if I don't find what I'm looking for I could always get it from one of the online retailers.

Amazon.ca had some nice books about the AR platform, and I have ordered a couple of them to educate myself before the show. I will also make sure to check more YouTube videos, as the ones I have seen where very nice. My only concern is I would rather trust the advice of Patrick Sweeney (one of the books I got) than just a John Doe with a YouTube account.

I will review the books once I have read them. For now, if anyone has suggestions as to which show is THE SHOW to go get the parts necessary for AR15 I have heard before of a show where not only did they sell parts, but also had CFO reps to assist with paperwork. Something like that will be very convenient and time saving - go buy the lower receiver first (it is my understanding that this part has to be registered, and picked up later?), go get everything else and come home ready for my project.

I will post as there's progress with the project. Thanks everyone for your advice, and I will try to build something nice to show off. hehe

Merry Christmass!

Aviad
 
Don't buy your parts at a gun show. You'll be limited and pay too much.

You can learn everything you need here on CGN in terms of parts. Some basic tools and I would recommend the Brownell's basic AR tool kit. Watch YouTube assembly videos and you're good to go.

I would recommend buying something as a complete rifle and or something close with only a few mods. It will be cheaper and less work.

I have a quasi IDF "inspired" style AR to match my Tavor. Armalite AR15 LE with Fab defense stock (came this way), M21 quick release reflex site. I'm changing the handguard to a diamond head T and a low profile gas block. Should look cool and shoot decently. Not top of the line but still a solid AR rifle. You get an excellent trigger with it as well once you realize you can adjust it! It should have decent accuracy with common ammo. It has a 1:9 twist CL double lapped barrel. I'm not expecting target rifle accuracy but hoping for 1moa once that barrel is free floated. I haven't #### it yet with the regular handguard so I'm just guessing.

Lots of options out there. But I will stress you will do better roaming the sponsor pages and EE vs a gun show. Also buying a complete rifle with minimal needed to change is usually a lot cheaper. Take your time. Learning about this stuff is half the fun. Look for deals and be patient. Also it makes bargain hunting a lot easier if you know your AR rifles and the normal price.
 
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