Advice .300 Wim Mag shooting

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Hey everyone,

Question.

I have a Benelli R1 walnut chambered in .300 win mag, Zeiss conquest 3x9 on top.

I also have an abolt in 30-06, an x bolt in .270 wsm, which I shoot 1-3" groups (6+ rounds) @ 100 yard with consistently ( not a sniper but not bad for a hunter ).

Which brings me to my issue, I cant get the Benelli to group tighter then 6-8" at 100 on a good day, there was a random day where is seemed to shoot ok but once prior and ever since its been brutal.

I know the recoil is quite a bit more on the .300 then the other 2 but i feel like 1-3 to 6-8 is quite a jump just blaming recoil.

The mounts seem tight shot off elbows and a bag.

Any ideas before I go chasing a gun smith or re mounting my scope could recoil make that big a difference and I just can't shoot a .300?

Thanks!

-Steve
 
Not sure if you load or not, but either way, try some reduced loads/light recoil ammo.
Can always load a 300WM down, but not a 30-06 up...

R.
 
stevedigs04 said:
I don’t reload yet always wanted to seems complicated.
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It's actually not all that complicated. And the results can be very personally rewarding. :cool:

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I don't know anything about the argo, so that torque tip seems to be the first thing to look at.

If you want to rule yourself out as a variable, have someone load the rifle for you with a snap cap in a random spot in the magazine. That way, when you are surprised by the dummy round you can see what kind of a flinch you might need to work on.

I also found this article helpful with my own .300: google "hold that forend", it's on the terminal ballistics research site.
 
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How do you shoot the groups, in terms of time between shots? The longer you wait between shots, the more the barrel has time to cool down, and the more potential there is for accuracy. Also, with a semi-auto, the first shot may be different from subsequent shots. Have you noticed any pattern, such as the first shot consistently hits low or high? With a hunting rifle, I would be more concerned with the 1st shot than any other. I would sight in the scope to the point of impact of the first shot.

I would try loading only a single round at a time, and wait several minutes between shots to allow the barrel to cool. Your hunting shot is going to be a first shot on a cold barrel.
 
My R1 in 300Win liked some bullets/weights and not others. Ruling yourself out first, try some different ammo. If you’re shooting the same stuff over and over hoping for different results, you’re going to be disappointed.

Patrick
 
The Argo will never shoot as well as a bolt gun so don't hold you breath. Most two piece stocked rifles cannot hold a candle to a one piece stocked gun. I had one of the first 20" carbines in 3006 when they just came out and killed a truck load of deer with the thing using factory Fusion 168gr rounds. I did put a drop of blue Loctite on the forend thread and tightened it down pretty good and never had any issues and the rifle would group between 1"-1 1'2" over all the years I owned it and never did shift. Group site would open up on the last shot hold open so when I would test it before hunting season, I would only fire three shots and let the bolt slam forward on a loaded round and not lock itself back.
 
I haven't shot my XPR in 300 wm either, I know I'm gonna flinch hahaha, still wanna shoot the sniper round the Canadian forces snipers use, they also noticed to the 338 lapua and 50 bfg too I believe
 
So interesting fact finding done today.

The torque all seemed fine so i was ready to toss it in the garbage.

To answer other questions yes I let the barrel cool between shots I usually bring 2-3 guns to the range at a time for this reason.

For ####s and giggles I got a box of 150 grain, and low and behold 4 shots sub 2" group.

Thanks for all the advice and such guys!

Seems the R1 just didn't like those big 180's I was trying to send down the tube.
 
Well I didn’t buy a .300 I have one not gonna buy a .308, I may try other 180’s but for now the 150’s are dialed in so I don’t know if I’m going to mess with that.

Question was is a 150 enough for elk.
 
stevedigs04 said:
I would imagine the .300 in 150 grain is still plenty for elk ?
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Yes. Plenty.No issues.

Glad you got the rifle sorted.
As mentioned, try a different brand of 180's, if you wish, to see what's what. There are lots of choices up from the 150's as well, but less than the 180's.

R.
 
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