advice on a .223

[Expendable Nate]

hi all im not looking to spend a fortune at the momenent and i have been educated on the error of buying a savage axis so im curious on what can be recommened for a good starter .223 bolt action with mag that wont break the bank thanks for for your time and patience


expendablenate

 

[BJP]

Look at any of the other Savage models or the entry level Remingtons. Most of the dealers on this site can supply what you want.

 

[Blastattack]

You should be able to find a Remington 700 SPS Varmint or Tactical for about $600 or so. I know Le Baron's has great prices on those rifles.

 

[Syxx15]

Getting a 223 in a fast rate of twist like 1:7, 1:8 or 1:9, then at least you can shoot heavier bullets like 68gr and up.

 

[Bolivar]

Syxx15

Symantics here but a low rate of twist has a higher number. One turn in x inches. The lower the number the faster the twist. I would agree with going with nothing slower than 1:9. My own in 1:7 with thoughts of shooting 80 and 90 gn bullets.

OP - when you say with a mag, do you mean a detachable magazine or an internal magazine. I think Savage offers more rifles with a detachable box than Rem....but I haven't really looked.

 

[Tomochan]

OP - an excellent value .223 can be found in the Remington SPS Tactical ( less than $700 I think ). It does not have a DBM, though one can be purchased and installed later on down the road ( ATRS, V-Bull and BC Tactical come to mind and all use the excellent AI mags). A Savage (10FP I think ) is also a good option to consider.

 

[Rocket Surgery]

Syxx15

OP - when you say with a mag, do you mean a detachable magazine or an internal magazine. I think Savage offers more rifles with a detachable box than Rem....but I haven't really looked.

Rem has the VTR triangular barrel DM in 223 but I heard it's not super precise, like .75moa @ 100yards.

Savage offers many DM rifles in many calibers, and I believe the accuracy is up there with Remington 700's.

 

[AWOL]

Tikka T3 Lite with Scope for just under $1000.

It all depends on what is meant by "break the bank".

 

[Suputin]

Getting a 223 in a slow rate of twist like 1:7, 1:8 or 1:9

I think you meant a FAST rate of twist. 1:7 is fast, 1:12 is slow.

 

[OctaRon1]

I have a Savage Varmint 1:9 shoots 75 gr great.

 

[Bolivar]

Some 1:9s shoot 75s fine, some don't. I know of two friends whose 1:9 would not work with 75 Gn Amax. Actual twist rate varies from barrel to barrel. Some are 1:9.25 say while other could be 1:8.75. I would go for a 1:8 or 1:7 to be sure that you can stabilize a 75 if that is what you want to shoot.

The 75 Amax is a bit longer than a 75 Gn BTHP, that could also make the difference if you are on the ragged edge. The longer the bullet, the faster the twist (assuming same velocity)