Advice on scope selection for Rem 700 needed pls

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Hey guys

Your knowledge and expertise would be helpful in selecting the right optic for a target rifle I just acquired off of a fellow CGN`r.

The rifle in question is a Remington 700P , 308 , heavy 26`` barrel mounted in an Accuracy International chassis

I`ve been reading and researching optics and found the brand I`d like to stick with which fits my budget and has gotten some great reviews.

I`ve chosen the Falcon line of optics from the UK and found 2 dealers here in the Great White North.

http://www.falconoptics.com/

They offer quite a few choices of glass and I`m on the fence about which one would be a solid investment.

I`ll be shooting at 200 yards at my local range but have the option to shoot up to 600 at other ones.

My questions are as follows :

1. For strictly paper punching from the bench is FFP or SFP recommended , I`ve read pro and cons for each and I don`t think I`d like my reticle to change on magnification to the point of obstructing the target.

Thoughts ?

2. Is there such a thing as overkill on magnification ? The two optics I was looking at were 5.5-25X56 or 10-50X60 , would either of those be overkill at a 200 yard range ? I`m asking as I would like to start off at my range and then move up and out and would like to buy 1 optic now rather than trade up at a later date.

The entire Falcon line can be found here :

http://frontierfirearms.ca/optics/scopes/falcon.html

Any advice would be appreciated as I`ve found the guys and gals on here to be very helpful and informative.

Thanks in advance

R
 
Have you physically compare or mounted a 5.5-25X56 or 10-50X60 scope. The 10-50 is huge, the 5.5-25 is big though seems most popular for long ranges.
 
burnaby said:
Have you physically compare or mounted a 5.5-25X56 or 10-50X60 scope. The 10-50 is huge, the 5.5-25 is big though seems most popular for long ranges.
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I have not , no. The difference in length is 2 inches and $100.

If the 5.5x25 will work without being overkill , even better.

R
 
if you've decided on the falcon line, then you haven't done "enough" research here on CGN.

IF that's what you want, then do it, but research first.
 
Personally I have never heard of Falcon optics until right now so I decided to do a little googling. I really couldn't find much in terms of reviews or experience so that makes me wonder why you decided on them to begin with. I won't lie, but $3-600 for a scope to be used for benchrest accuracy is pretty cheap. No offense at all if that's your price range, but most high end, high-magnification scopes are often way above $1500. Once you get above that price range, you're not only paying for glass quality, but also repeatability, quality, and reliability of the mechanical components (turrets, etc) in the scope.

For strictly paper punching at known distances, SFP would be fine. FFP and SFP each have their advantages. The main advantage for FFP that I see is that regardless of what power your scope is set on, the reticle is always the same measurements. So for example, 1 MOA on your scope at 6x is also 1 MOA on your scope at 12x.
 
The rifle in question is a Remington 700P , 308 , heavy 26`` barrel mounted in an Accuracy International chassis
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Considering what you paid for the rifle, you would be better served with a higher end Bushnell or Vortex, or a Sightron or Leupold in the magnification range of 6.5x20 or 8x32 in SFP.
 
I would recommend passing on the Falcon. They are not a terribly bad idea and the old 4.5-18x56 was, for the price, quite reasonable but the problem is that they don't have a history of holding up overly well. For the price I would recommend that you look for a used Sightron or Vortex or ( perhaps even better ) an old Bushnell Elite 4200 series.

SFP / FFP will bring out the usual advocates for both ( I am now, incidentally a FFP convert ) but for punching paper at a know distance a SFP will be really the better choice for you and the price will be better as well.

As someone else mentioned 6-24 or ( even better ) 8-32 is what I'd be looking for.
 
I remember when the Falcon scopes first came out and everyone loved them and had zero problems with them. Whats changed since then? Even Nightforce, Leupold, Vortex, and Bushnell have issues and they seem to get over looked but one or two Falcons go down and they say don't get one and steer clear of them. I don't understand it. BTW I would stay away from Vortex, sure they have a lifetime warranty but it seems they have the most issues out of them all and you will need it.
 
I had a hawke sidewinder for 2-3 years before I upgraded to a sightron . It worked quite well as far as repeatable turret settings ( box tests and a lot of use)and the retical was a good mil dot , good glass and only $500 . It was quite big and heavy but shouldn't bother you just for range shooting . And it sold easily when the time came too . Best I've seen for a budget scope

If you have the budget go Bushnell or sightron or other high end scope though ( tried and proven )
 
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I remember when the Falcon scopes first came out and everyone loved them and had zero problems with them. Whats changed since then? Even Nightforce, Leupold, Vortex, and Bushnell have issues and they seem to get over looked but one or two Falcons go down and they say don't get one and steer clear of them. I don't understand it. BTW I would stay away from Vortex, sure they have a lifetime warranty but it seems they have the most issues out of them all and you will need it.
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I actually own a Falcon. One of the first models 4-16 with 1/8 moa turrets, that has been swapped on 5 different rifles including a norc m14s and still works.
iirc, The original ones were fine, but when they brought out the 5-? power versions issues started. They had 2 piece tubes that came apart, etc etc, and they never recovered or apparently improved after that.
 
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