Advice Please!!: TRW M14 Composite Stock Original Vietnam Rifle w/ Chrome Line Barrel
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without getting complicated, just destroy the receiver and sell all the other parts- all American m14s went to prohibited status back in 95 or so under c-c-68- the Americans won't let the gun in or any "deemed " machine gun so it legally has to stay in this country- right now as it is she has an illegal "ghost " prohibited weapon unless she has a 12(3)and can't register it- in other words she has to have a 12 3 certification and the gun has to have been on he verified list before 95- there's lots of people that have these so- called ghost guns and the only solution is either to destroy the receiver yourself or have it destroyed for you- as it is right now you face 5 years imprisonment
it pains me as this is a trw, possibly the best m14 ever produced, and yet we bought these in good faith and had them modified as per cbsa and cfc approval at the time- ie you went to bed one night with your legal American made m14 and the next morning you had a prohibited weapon on your hands- now as to the legal way out of this, you can turn it in for destruction, or maybe just maybe, you can take a cutting wheel to the rails( a reinforced dremel wheel would probably do)after stripping the receiver bare- ie remove the rear sight,bolt, trigger,bolt release , all the pins and the either a cutting wheel or torch( although I don't care for heat around the receiver even if you are destroying it- and cut it into 3 pieces- ie a section out of the rail, so you can't re-weld it back together again
if others want to weigh in on this please do so- esp tactical teacher or 45 acp king or others of that ( excuse the pun) caliber
it pains me as this is a trw, possibly the best m14 ever produced, and yet we bought these in good faith and had them modified as per cbsa and cfc approval at the time- ie you went to bed one night with your legal American made m14 and the next morning you had a prohibited weapon on your hands- now as to the legal way out of this, you can turn it in for destruction, or maybe just maybe, you can take a cutting wheel to the rails( a reinforced dremel wheel would probably do)after stripping the receiver bare- ie remove the rear sight,bolt, trigger,bolt release , all the pins and the either a cutting wheel or torch( although I don't care for heat around the receiver even if you are destroying it- and cut it into 3 pieces- ie a section out of the rail, so you can't re-weld it back together again
if others want to weigh in on this please do so- esp tactical teacher or 45 acp king or others of that ( excuse the pun) caliber
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Oh gosh! Thank you so much for telling me this, she's not going to be thrilled :|
She has her FAC, I'm not a gun enthusiast at all so I don't know what a 12-3 certification, but i'll assume its a prohib license.
Is it possible for a 60 year old women to get her Prohibited license??
She has her FAC, I'm not a gun enthusiast at all so I don't know what a 12-3 certification, but i'll assume its a prohib license.
Is it possible for a 60 year old women to get her Prohibited license??
If it is not currently registered as a prohibited rifle, it can't be. No one can own it.
I sold my TRW m14 for $1,000. The buyer stripped off all the parts and gave me back the receiver.
She can do the same, and receiver can be cut in half and thrown in the garbage.
I sold my TRW m14 for $1,000. The buyer stripped off all the parts and gave me back the receiver.
She can do the same, and receiver can be cut in half and thrown in the garbage.
There are no valid FACs. They have all expired. See if she has a POL or PAL with a 12-3 endorsement. If the rifle is not registered as 12-3, it cannot be registered, and if a person does not have a POL or PAL with prohibited endorsement, there is no way to get one.
Taking it to a gunsmith could be problematic. Most businesses do not want to have someone walk through their door with an illegal gun. And it is an offence to transport an illegal gun.
If it is unregistered, one option would be to strip it, and cut the receiver in half. The balance of the parts have real value.
Taking it to a gunsmith could be problematic. Most businesses do not want to have someone walk through their door with an illegal gun. And it is an offence to transport an illegal gun.
If it is unregistered, one option would be to strip it, and cut the receiver in half. The balance of the parts have real value.
no, it's a converted auto certification and you have to have both and the gun certified BEFORE 1995- in other words, no way- unless she owned a converted prohibited before 1995- and the gun would have had to have been on the list and certified- in other words a standard PAL WON'T do- and there is no such thing as a prohibited license- we're"grandfathered " by the fact that we've had these things forever( in my case it's a converted uzi)and the government was being "generous" by letting us keep them- now I know grumpy wolverine has a bunch of m14s coming and these will have to have their receivers destroyed before he can sell them, but as to whether he can help you out with it not being registered, I don't know- ie I don't know if he would even touch it as it's not a registered m14.
what I would do in your case is to strip it, all parts, go over to Canadian tire and get a dremel tool or their equivalent, and a reinforced cutting wheel take it to your workshop, clamp the thing in a vise, and make 3 cuts- 1 on each side of the receiver up by the barrel but on it so there's a bit of the receiver left on the barrel and just before the stripper clip guide- maybe some time she'll meet someone who can do this for her- it's very simple - first thing I would do is get a m14 manual ands learn how each component comes out and start there- or like u said there's the squirrel option and let the exectutor deal with it
what I would do in your case is to strip it, all parts, go over to Canadian tire and get a dremel tool or their equivalent, and a reinforced cutting wheel take it to your workshop, clamp the thing in a vise, and make 3 cuts- 1 on each side of the receiver up by the barrel but on it so there's a bit of the receiver left on the barrel and just before the stripper clip guide- maybe some time she'll meet someone who can do this for her- it's very simple - first thing I would do is get a m14 manual ands learn how each component comes out and start there- or like u said there's the squirrel option and let the exectutor deal with it
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So what do I tell her? Buy a metal cutter? xP she spent $400 in 1984 for this firearm, it'd be devastating to tell her she needs to spend money just to destroy it ! and at the time she had her FAC, So the store she got it from sold her an illegal weapon?
It was legal when purchased, but if it was not registered when the #### hit the fan in the mid '90s then yes it is illegal now and cannot be brought in to legal status that I know of. Best bet is probably to get a grinder and cut the receiver in half.
It is still worth about 1000$ just in parts and that is sadly it only chance to live again
She could strip the full-auto receiver and either sell it as a complete parts kit or buy a new semi-auto receiver and ask ~$3,000 or more for the package.
A new, semi-auto only Fulton Armory receiver is $575 for both M14 and M21 marked receivers. She would need someone such as IRUNGUNS to import it for her.
She could have the full auto receiver removed and destroyed, then find a buyer before buying and importing the Fulton receiver.
Hope this helps!
A new, semi-auto only Fulton Armory receiver is $575 for both M14 and M21 marked receivers. She would need someone such as IRUNGUNS to import it for her.
She could have the full auto receiver removed and destroyed, then find a buyer before buying and importing the Fulton receiver.
Hope this helps!
In 1984, it was perfectly legal to buy and own a true M-14, so no, the store did not sell her an illegal gun. Another option is to dewat the gun and sell it as same. Would need to be made unusable properly under today's rules.
Has she ever been to prison? That's one option for her....
Recip saw might cut through it, grinder with a cutting wheel...lot of cheap ways. You could probably sell all the parts for $1500 in one shot. Make one cut close to the barrel so you don't damage it.
It's very sad because I was looking online and this specific TRW model is considered to be worth 25-35k to americans, but like everyone here has said, deemed illegal without a PAL from before 1994.
this is going to be the worst conversation ever .. -gulp-
blasphemy- far better to strip it than to dewat it and again you run into the same problem- the SECOND it leaves her household she becomes a criminal- and in order to dewat it has to be transported- it's a job for a dremel and cut off wheel or eqivielent and done in HER BASEMEnT or some secluded spot on her property
the dremel goes for less than 100 dollars at Canadian tire- almist any version- the wheels are 5/20 bucks- very cheap if you ask me
and any 'JOE' can do the job and keep his mouth SHUT
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IT'S NOT- HAD IT BEEN THE mods would have been all over it- and you aske a legitimate question and were answered legitimately-hitzy, ganderite and myself are well aware of what's legal and what's not- and we've all answered hypothetically- you're INNOCENT until proven guilty
I agree it's a shame to destroy a TRW, but I think destroying the full auto receiver and selling the parts with a new Fulton Armory receiver, some assembly required, would net her the highest selling price.
Or she could buy the new receiver and have a gunsmith install it and keep it, in case she changes her mind on selling it and wants to be safe. john172 barrels and builds M1 Garands and M14s; if she's interested, send him a PM. He's currently barreling my M1.
She could probably ask more for a complete rifle than she could for a parts kit and receiver or just a parts kit.
Or she could buy the new receiver and have a gunsmith install it and keep it, in case she changes her mind on selling it and wants to be safe. john172 barrels and builds M1 Garands and M14s; if she's interested, send him a PM. He's currently barreling my M1.
She could probably ask more for a complete rifle than she could for a parts kit and receiver or just a parts kit.
Absolutely, but it depends on what the interests are. If it's keeping the gun, or trying to get the most money, then building a gun is probably the way to go, but maybe not. Gunsmith time isn't free and it will take time and effort overall.
If it's money she's interested in, chop receiver in half or three and sell the parts for over a grand and be done with it.
There are supposed to be lots of parts kits coming in, so the sooner the better for this route.
honestly thank you so much for keeping me informed, I appreciate it, as does she- Status
