AFFORDABLE Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver

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If that title caught your attention, you likely know about this very unique, and quite rare, British handgun. Most of us will never actually see an original, much less be likely to acquire one -

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Well, I am one of a number of people anxiously following a project of PHSADC (Pakistan Hunting & Sporting Arms Development Company) .... namely, an affordable current-production version of the Webley-Fosbery! A friend in the United States has been advised that the project is far enough along that the revolvers could be available in the near future through a US distributor .... supposedly in the price-range of US$800 ....

Here is a link to the PHSADC Facebook album showing a prototype of the revolver - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.279760965502911.1073741825.173636442782031&type=1

I have sent an inquiry to Marstar (who seemed like a likely choice) to see if there is any possibility of their bringing in these revolvers, as I'd certainly buy one if the price was comparable to the projected US pricing. If anyone else is interested, check out these links .... then jump on the bandwagon to encourage Marstar (or, failing them, some other Canadian distributor) to bring these in!

Check this online article: http://oldbritishguns.com/phsadc-webley-fosbery

This is the general Facebook page where PHSADC showcase products and projects .... I don't know how to post a link to the specific thread where they link to the above album, but if you scroll through the page you should see it, and be able to leave "Likes" and "Comments" ..... (Lots of other fascinating looking items on their site, also.) https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pakistan-Hunting-Sporting-Arms-Development-Company-Phsadc/179036122242220
 
I'd be interested in one to go with my other Webleys. Dr. Wattson carried one in the original books I believe.

Sherlock Holmes carried a Webley Metropolitan Police revolver. Dr. Watson's revolver was an Adams or Beaumont-Adams. Both were chambered in .450 Adams. A fair bit of appropriate detective work had to be done to decipher just which revolvers the characters refer to, but the general consensus is as I stated. I'm a bit of a Sherlock Holmes nut.
 
Yes, George Fosbery didn't take out his first patent on this concept until 1895, and the revolvers didn't actually go into production until 1901 - rather too late for the time-frame of the sherlock Holmes stories.

A fascinating firearm, at any rate.

I have been trying to find a slow-motion video of a Webley-Fosbery being fired, and have finally found one - http://revision3.com/ratedrr/ipod-touch-5th-generation
Although I am baffled about the object of the exercise, the video does contain footage of the sort I was looking for. If you want to "cut right to the chase", go to about the 45 second mark in the video ....
 
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You should probably run away from that except for the personal interest value. Nobody wants firearms made in Pakistan. Iffy metalurgy at best. Plus their law doesn't allow any calibre larger than .32 for civilians.
 
You should probably run away from that except for the personal interest value. Nobody wants firearms made in Pakistan. Iffy metalurgy at best. Plus their law doesn't allow any calibre larger than .32 for civilians.

:confused: Well, that is certainly an over-generalization! As with most firearms-manufacturing countries, there are both good products and bad products made there. Pakistan has both "Khyber Pass backyard makers" and quite sophisticated firearms production facilities. PHSADC is a Pakistan Government development and marketing agency, so I assume the products they promote come from different manufacturers, but would be expected to meet some sort of minimum standards for export ..... Clearly they wish to export these (and most of the other items they promote) to the "Monied West" .... on an ongoing basis .... so they won't likely be shipping out "hand grenades".

As for caliber, all of the information posted so far indicates that versions in both original calibers will be produced - i.e. .455 (6-shot) and .38 (8-shot).
 
Very interesting indeed. I wonder if they might be planning on manufacturing modern Martini-Henrys (in suitable rimmed calibres, such as .303, 45-70, 38-55and maybe some smaller bores) as well.

:) Stuart
 
Very interesting indeed. I wonder if they might be planning on manufacturing modern Martini-Henrys (in suitable rimmed calibres, such as .303, 45-70, 38-55and maybe some smaller bores) as well.

On the Facebook entry for the .22 Martini, one comment asked "Any chance of a .303 version?" .... and they responded "Yes"
 
If I remember right, a few years ago one was handed in during a gun amnesty by a widow and the cops still had it melted down.
 
On the Facebook entry for the .22 Martini, one comment asked "Any chance of a .303 version?" .... and they responded "Yes"

Oh dear... To use an expression coined on one other thread, I'm getting the "wantsies." (I don't "do" Facebook... at least not so far... so didn't see that.)

:) Stuart
 
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