Anyone else find Aguila 40 grain super extra really, really hard to get into the chamber? I fired a few but they were so hard to drive into the chamber that I gave up. It was next to impossible to close the bolt enough to lock it up. Never had this issue with .22 ammo before, its like it hasn't been swaged or is just oversized or something. I've been shooting the .38 grain HP aguila super extra a lot and it doesn't have this problem. The .38 grain is excellent shooting ammo for the price in my rifles.
Aguila .22, super extra hard to chamber.
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Gun was a mossberg 146b. It is ludicrously accurate for an old girl, I wouldn't be surprised if it has a tight chamber. I've just never felt a bullet jam up like that before, like it was a couple thou oversized. Felt like I was trying to force a different caliber in there. The few rounds I fired shot fine, accurate even. About the same as the hollow points. I'll have to try them in another gun next time and see if I get the same issue.
I don't use Aguila 'cause I don't like the smell of the smoke - tried a couple boxes and quit. I found a review of Aguila by "Jordy Buck" - whoever that is. He thinks it's good stuff BUT he complained about "waxy lube" being on the whole case and bullet. May be your issue if your chamber is snug. Cleaned the chamber with C4 ??
" . . . It seems as though they lubricate the whole thing after the ammo is assembled, so the entire case is waxy. That can rub or fly off into the chamber. . . " http s://guntradition.com/aguila-ammo-how-good-is-it/
" . . . It seems as though they lubricate the whole thing after the ammo is assembled, so the entire case is waxy. That can rub or fly off into the chamber. . . " http s://guntradition.com/aguila-ammo-how-good-is-it/
Could be that, but the hollow points chamber no problem, pretty sure the cases are the same size. I think the bullet is fatter on the round nose for whatever reason. I'll dig out the vernier caliper from the shop tomorrow and measure them. Could definitely feel the bullet entering the throat, felt like it was scraping or swaging the lead.
I dont mind the smell that much, kinda reminds me of eley.
This is always good advice.
The chamber on the Mossberg shouldn't have problems with any .22LR ammo. Of course not all ammo is always equal in dimensions.
I had actually done that already. Gave the mossberg a deep bore cleaning the week before.
I tried loading the 40 grain into another gun this morning and same thing, bullet was extremely hard to seat. I was hoping I just had a tight chamber in the mossberg but it seems like the bullets are oversized. Just barely crams into a bolt action. No way would it cycle or feed in a semi.
I actually sent an email to Aguila asking if the sizing is a manufacturing defect or if theyre supposed to be that big, see what they say. I can't imagine they size their bullets to .226 on purpose. But Canadian Tire ain't taking them back lol.
Haha, not another old Cooey single shot. But there is room in the arsenal. Always lol.
It's hard to imagine the ammo maker replying specifically to the email question, least of all conceding that their bullets may not have acceptable dimensions.
For what it's worth, below are the dimensions to which the ammo is supposed to be manufactured. There will be some variation in dimensions in all components, including bullets. Usually match ammo is held to stricter quality controls and product fails to meet acceptable standards gets downgraded to lesser grades or something similar.
For what it's worth, below are the dimensions to which the ammo is supposed to be manufactured. There will be some variation in dimensions in all components, including bullets. Usually match ammo is held to stricter quality controls and product fails to meet acceptable standards gets downgraded to lesser grades or something similar.
Mikey - Did you measure ammo from 2 or more boxes ? Per the SAAMI spec 0.2255-ish for the bullet and 0.226 for the case is pretty close. Did you measure 'other brands' too ?
BTW, I just revisited this thread because I just saw a similar issue on RFC,m regarding a Sav MKII and Aguila; maybe there's a 'bad swager' down South, making O-size bullets ? ->
http s://www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/new-savage-mk2-f-ejection-issues-w-aguila-ammo.1296856/
BTW, I just revisited this thread because I just saw a similar issue on RFC,m regarding a Sav MKII and Aguila; maybe there's a 'bad swager' down South, making O-size bullets ? ->
http s://www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/new-savage-mk2-f-ejection-issues-w-aguila-ammo.1296856/
I measured the Aguila SE hollow point at .224" and SK Standard plus at .221", and CCi quiet is .221" also.
I have issues extracting the 40 grain aguilas also. It extracts in all my guns but it's not smooth to remove. I think the fat bullet it's likely causing a higher than normal pressure spike and expanding the cases quite a bit. Having owned a few Savage MkIIs, I'm gonna blame the gun for that one. All my savages had weak extractors.
On a side note, the Aguila HP was shooting almost as good as the SK Standard plus last time I had the mossberg out. I wouldnt have believed it if i hadnt shot the groups. At 50m the SK was averaging a hair over half inch and the Aguila was right around .75". Awesome cheap plinking ammo.
I have issues extracting the 40 grain aguilas also. It extracts in all my guns but it's not smooth to remove. I think the fat bullet it's likely causing a higher than normal pressure spike and expanding the cases quite a bit. Having owned a few Savage MkIIs, I'm gonna blame the gun for that one. All my savages had weak extractors.
On a side note, the Aguila HP was shooting almost as good as the SK Standard plus last time I had the mossberg out. I wouldnt have believed it if i hadnt shot the groups. At 50m the SK was averaging a hair over half inch and the Aguila was right around .75". Awesome cheap plinking ammo.
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Do you have issues retracting the fired case ? Or, you just insert it without letting off the load ?
The 40 grain after fired can be a little sticky to extract in a couple of my guns, yep. Haven't tried extracting one without firing it off. They're a little over pressured for sure. Could be the wax on them making them a little sticky in there.
