al in one scope need help

[reachoutandtouchsomeone]

looking to purchase a scope that i can use on Ar 10 for the 300 - 500 yard targets, and switch to my bolt action rifle that will be used on the 1000 yard line. any and all help would be appreciated. Comments. Can only afford to buy one scope for both apps.

 

[Westicle]

looking to purchase a scope that i can use on Ar 10 for the 300 - 500 yard targets, and switch to my bolt action rifle that will be used on the 1000 yard line. any and all help would be appreciated. Comments. Can only afford to buy one scope for both apps.

just buy a good leupold, 6-20x40mm, mount it on an arms or other quick release mount..... even luepold QRW rings, and have a nice pictanney rail from http://www.nearmfg.com/ put on your bolt action.

that way if you keep a record of your setting you may even be able to have repeatable accuracy between dismounting and mounting. just have to set the windage and elevation when you change rifles.

if your shooting 1000 yds with the bolt gun, then get the 20 MOA near rail and you will have the elevation you need

 

[DMCI]

In general, until recently this would have been like asking for a rocket that would work great for fireworks and also be acceptable as an ICBM.

However, if you really know scopes then the best solution is the DMR or Designated Rifleman Scope produced by Leupold:

Scope is relatively small for Black rifle application while low power is just right for CQB or similar and 10X will resolve 1 moa at 1000 yards without difficulty. Note that in the real world, you will seldom shoot at ranges exceeding 600 yards.

Larger scopes seem unwieldy for AR use to me. Of course this is just one man's opinion.

D.

 

[NormB]

10X will resolve 1 moa at 1000 yards without difficulty. Note that in the real world, you will seldom shoot at ranges exceeding 600 yards.


D.

10X may resolve 1 MOA at 1000yds, but I like to get into the X-ring at 1000yds, quarter it, and see the texture of the target paper in good seeing conditions. You need 36X to 50X to do that.

You could get a Leupold 8.5X25 and have it bumped to 20X50 by Premier recticles. Get the tactical turrets as well.

http://www.premierreticles.com/

At most 1000yd unlimited matches 10X would be a distinct disadvantage.

NormB

 

[Savage]

10X may resolve 1 MOA at 1000yds, but I like to get into the X-ring at 1000yds, quarter it, and see the texture of the target paper in good seeing conditions. You need 36X to 50X to do that.

You could get a Leupold 8.5X25 and have it bumped to 20X50 by Premier recticles. Get the tactical turrets as well.

http://www.premierreticles.com/

At most 1000yd unlimited matches 10X would be a distinct disadvantage.

NormB

I guess mirage wont matter with a 20-50x if you could actually see your target, 50x which I doubt anyone could really use that effectivly the 6.5 x20 LR/t is a great scope useful for both an AR10 and bolt rifle if you get aNear Base don't cheap out and get cheap rings the ARMS ,Leupold,NightForce,TPS ,Farrel , Badger and Near all make Quaility rings

 

[NormB]

I guess mirage wont matter with a 20-50x if you could actually see your target, 50x which I doubt anyone could really use that effectivly the 6.5 x20 LR/t is a great scope useful for both an AR10 and bolt rifle if you get aNear Base don't cheap out and get cheap rings the ARMS ,Leupold,NightForce,TPS ,Farrel , Badger and Near all make Quaility rings

Oh Yes, there is mirage. Your right it doesn't really matter. You just aim at the centre or whereever you need to hold on the big grey bouncing fuzz ball.
I kept my Premier 20X50 at 50X all year. Its nice and effective from 100yds to 1000 yds

NormB

 

[Mystic Precision]

Best entry level option would be the Elite 10x in Burris sig rings w/inserts. As long as both rifles have a scope base with the same mounting locations/distances, the Burris can be transfered easily. You just have to make sure that both actions are indexed the same or else one rifle will have a canted scope.

From there, the nikon buckmaster SF 4X14, elite 4200 4X16 and 6X24, Super Sniper, Nikon Tactical/Monarch, Burris signature (expensive for what you get), etc.

As long as you have repeatable turrents and suitable optics, many scopes will do what you want. Just note how much elevation you need for your longer range shooter and buy accordingly. The 308 will fit in easily to the specs of the bolt rifle.

Just check that the bell diameter doesn't cause interference with the barrels. I would shy away from mag over 24X due to mirage but that is a function of tastes. I would not buy a scope with a bell over 45mm as it could interefere with heavy barrels unless you go with xhigh rings.

Have fun...

Jerry

 

[Trevor60]

I would have to agree with Norm B. If you’re shooting for score at 1000 yards such as open (F class) you need the higher magnification. Most topped ranked USA F class shooter us the Night Forces 12-42 NXS scope and always have it on 42. They shoot through the mirage at the "bouncing fuzzy ball" They like the mirage like Norm B because, they can tell by the mirage when the wind has switched. Or at least they hope they notice the switch.
The Burris 8-32 is an option some folks like for F class and with the 8 power you can dial down for the shorter distances. The Bausch and Lomb Tac 10 or the fixed 10x Mark 4 are used for Precision shooting which shoots at silhouette sized targets also known as sniper matches for the politically incorrect. But even there some guys (Brad Sauve) for example use the 12x42 Night Forces.
If you get the Leupold 8.5-25 you at least have the option of boosting the power at a later date.

 

[HKMark23]

Can only afford to buy one scope for both apps.

Actually, it could be just as likely that you can't afford not to. Some of the "versatile" rifle scopes out there can be priced at several times the cost of something more basic.