Alberta Fish&Wildlife wants every deer dead

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...At least that seems to be their goal in the Oyen area. I saw this story on the CFCN news yesterday. They feel the only way to get a handle on CWD is to kill every deer they come across. They said they will donate the un-infected meat to the food bank. In my opinion, there are a great number of Mule deer in Southern Alberta lately not to mention a great many ethical hunters who would gladly buy a tag or three to feed their families...but a few years back they took away the general season on mule deer pretty much everywhere:confused:. It's like they're trying to solve a problem thay helped to create...Oh yeah-it's the government.
 
The same here in Wainwright. The F&W is having a HELIPOACH here this Feb. I beleive they are actually contracting a hired gun. At least they opened up the base to an additional 50 "landowner tags" per three day hunt last fall.

A lot of folk in the area took advantage of the meat provided from the last HELIPOACH from WMU 234 and 232.

IMHO they are obliterating more animals trying to prevent the disease, than the disease would by running it's natural course.
 
it is about the stupidest thing they can do in my opinion. 1 in a hundred they said i think have it? so kill em all? yet i cant get drawn for a tag last yer? WTF
 
I feel your pain. There's supplemental and third tags for whitetail and people I know back home have to call the local First Nations to deal with the mule deer and elk that no one's allowed to hunt.
 
I believe they are doing the right thing and some of you guys just don't understand what is going on. They have tried to allow resident hunters the opportunity to cull as many deer as possible. But it is not enough. So they have to deal with it themselves.

Robin in Rocky
 
I also think they are doing the right thing, we can't shoot enough in any given area to deal with the CWD issue. Doe tags reguarly go unfilled in just about every area where they are available.
 
One in a hundred?

More like one in every 400 has CWD, or 1 in 350, something along those numbers. The thing about F&W doing the killing is they don't have to ask permission from the land owner like you and I would have to do. FS
 
I work in the area south of Oyen, AB where they were out shooting yesterday. Talk about a slaughter. All day you could hear semi-auto fire from the helo and then you'd see them flying throught the river hills with more dead deer hanging underneath. A few of us went and talked to the game wardens on our way home from work. We were told they had shot about 45 yesterday and are only getting started. Apparently next week they want to start crossing the Sask border and clearing out my home area. This really sucks, i was planning on hunting deer for the first time next year but i don't think there's going to be much left for us.
 
Duffy said:
I believe they are doing the right thing and some of you guys just don't understand what is going on. They have tried to allow resident hunters the opportunity to cull as many deer as possible. But it is not enough. So they have to deal with it themselves.

Robin in Rocky
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I guess I missed that invitation. Did they post it on their website?
 
F&W suck

Why wouldn't F&W have some foresight and increes tag quota,s back in November, a mere 3 months ago. We ( conservationist/hunters ) could have done some of there work for them, if I planed like that at work, I would get f***king fired.
 
retoxtony said:
I work in the area south of Oyen, AB where they were out shooting yesterday. Talk about a slaughter. All day you could hear semi-auto fire from the helo and then you'd see them flying throught the river hills with more dead deer hanging underneath. A few of us went and talked to the game wardens on our way home from work. We were told they had shot about 45 yesterday and are only getting started. Apparently next week they want to start crossing the Sask border and clearing out my home area. This really sucks, i was planning on hunting deer for the first time next year but i don't think there's going to be much left for us.
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Welcome to CGN retoxtony.
Too bad about losing so many deer from your area, I'd be upset about it too, particularly when you don't get a chance to participate in the cull.
However, deer will move in from the surrounding area. The hunt will return in a few years.
Better that, than lose the whole deer herd province wide to disease, or have it transfer to cattle. (Something they have yet to prove can happen, as I understand it.)
 
martinbns said:
I also think they are doing the right thing, we can't shoot enough in any given area to deal with the CWD issue. Doe tags reguarly go unfilled in just about every area where they are available.
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I regularly hunt in Alberta and although my hunting partner can get drawn for doe tags I can't as a non resident. Last year residents were given 3 doe tags in the area we hunt. I would gladly take doe tags and pass up smaller bucks. Maybe F&W should look at that for future culls.
 
53moose320Elk said:
I wonder if CWD is really new or was it always present in nature and just discovered. Would it be natures way of reducing the population . Just a thought. ???
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From Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_wasting_disease

...First recognized as a clinical "wasting" syndrome in 1967 in mule deer in a wildlife research facility in northern Colorado, it was identified as a TSE in 1978...
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The origin and mode of transmission of the prions causing CWD is unknown...
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In the mid-1980s, CWD was detected in free-ranging deer and elk in contiguous portions of northeastern Colorado and southeastern Wyoming...
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I remember reading an article in a hunting magazine about it's origins and when it was first discovered, it was thought to be a type of scrapie:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrapie

Scrapie is a fatal, degenerative disease that affects the nervous systems of sheep and goats. It is one of several transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs), which are related to bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE or "mad cow disease") and chronic wasting disease of deer. Like other spongiform encephalopathies, scrapie is believed to be caused by a prion. Scrapie has been known since the 18th century (1732) and does not appear to be transmissible to humans...
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Should have seen our oilfield leases after they were done their "helipoach".
I've said in other posts, not sure what is the right thing to do, but there is nothing we can do about it.

LeRoy
 
In the area around Oyen they have tried to make use of resident hunters as much as possible, with the opportunity to take 3 or 4 deer per hunter, the first 2/3 had to be does and their heads turned in first, and then you could take a buck (at least last year). These deer were all in addition to your regular tags and draws. From what I understand there were not nearly enough guys out hunting, and a few problems with guys shooting bucks first. If that season was not available this year, I am suprized.

I do not know the answer, but the theory is that deer migrate into the area from Sask. in the winter, and therefore the impact on resident Alberta deer should be minimal. This is what I was told by one of AB wildlife biologists.

I guess it will be a wait and see.

Ian
 
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