Alberta Long Range Challange ******Results & Rest of Pics Added******

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Well it's been a long day (5th one in a row) and I just don't feel like posting a ton of pics right now.:D I have them and I promise to get them up in the next 2 or 3 days, just not right now.

For now though here's the results. They are the unofficial score boards from the shoot, we just rechecked the scores from the score sheets and they are good. Didn't feel like typing everything out so I hope this will do.



Here they are, spelling mistakes and all.:redface:

Qualifying Day ONE
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Qualifying Day TWO
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Conditions were much better on day 2 so a decision was made at the start of day 2 to take the top three teams from each day and then 3 more teams based on score. It was a good decision, as you can see the scores averaged much higher on day 2.


Finals Day THREE
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Big thanks to all those that came out and a big thanks to Mutt for all the work he put into this shoot.

To all the guys in the shoot that won a prize, please don't forget to thank the sponsor who donated it, and whenever you get a chance thank the rest of them as well even if you didn't get one of thier prizes. Without them the shoot just wouldn't be the same. If I talk to a sponsor and they have not had any feed back from the winner I will :kickInTheNuts:, then :runaway:, and then :kickInTheNuts: again.

OK maby not but please thank them anyway.


Thanks again guys.

Dave
 
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Dave, would it be possibly to post what caliber rifles the teams were shooting, to get an idea of what people were running in the competition? It might be helpful for those that want to compete next year to have an idea of what worked well in the conditions.
 
I'm so spoiled by shooting at steel now again, shooting paper at the BCRA is going to be hard to get use to. Because some of the plates have a build up of paint on them, it's not hard to see where you've hit when a chunk of paint 2" round comes off the plate upon impact.
 
Glock-a-maniac said:
Dave, would it be possibly to post what caliber rifles the teams were shooting, to get an idea of what people were running in the competition? It might be helpful for those that want to compete next year to have an idea of what worked well in the conditions.
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Mutt would have to post the caliber's for each team. I don't have that info.

There is no question this year that conditions being what they were, having a good B.C. bullet made dealing with the wind a lot easier.

Not sure what the CB Bandits were running but I do know TF Mafia and Dutch Rudders were using a 300 WM, 2-7mm WSM's, and a 6.5/284. All going around 2900fps with a .6 BC or higher match bullet.

Even with better ballistics though, I wouldn't take a WSM or a 6.5/284 shooting 3/4 MOA over a .308 shooting 1/2 MOA. Part of this compitition like it or not is seeing how good your gun shoot's i.e. load development, barrel care, or whatever.

I think the #1 thing to be competative is to make sure the gun and load truly are 1/2 MOA or better. The next thing is spotter's ability to read and call both wind and hits, then shooter ability to "send it", and then a good BC bullet to cover up a bit of the error the first three might have.

One other thing is since brakes are allowed, take advantage of it. Nothing is better than spotter and shooter knowing what to do next while the bullet is still on the way to the target.:eek: Thats my favorite part of having a 6.5/284 with a brake on it.:D

Dave


LRC, Pics are on the way, just give me a day or two.:runaway:;):D
 
I agree with with all of that but I believe also that the longer your bullet is in flight, the more the conditions can play with your bullet and since our bullets don't fly the path we see, the bigger the ark, the more time that bullet has to play in the wind.
 
Just for the record, Mutt and Chad were team "TF Mafia". They stole the name I was going to use:mad:, then rigged the whole thing so they would win.:nest::p:p: Ok the last part is complete BS, anyone there saw that they shot in relays with some of the worst conditions, and still dominated each day. Those guys have all four of the things I mentioned in my last post down to a fine art.

And for anyone who thinks it's unfair cause they run the shoot, well it would be unfair to do that insane amount of work and not be able to compete. Not to mention the lengths he went to, to make sure everything was as fair as possible for all shooters. I could list the things Mutt did but why? Fact is they won fair and square:(.

So hats off to them for running an awesome shoot and still be able to compete so well in it.:D:dancingbanana::D
 
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Glock-a-maniac said:
I agree with with all of that but I believe also that the longer your bullet is in flight, the more the conditions can play with your bullet and since our bullets don't fly the path we see, the bigger the ark, the more time that bullet has to play in the wind.
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The .308's will always be at a disadvantage compared to the better calibers, how much is very debatable, still I agree with what your saying. It is no secrete that in an open class shoot like this, better equipment is needed to do well.

A $4000-$5000 set up will do much better than a $2000 one if it is driven properly. A 7mm WSM will kick ass if a good load is worked up. To me it's not just one thing, like the caliber, it's a combination of everything.

Perhaps there should be a separate class for the factory rifle's and .308's but that will be a debate while planning the next shoot and that probably won't be till next year. For now I'm just happy this one went so well and I think everyone had a good time and will be back next year no matter what gun they have to shoot with.

Where else in Canada can a guy go to shoot 3000lbs of steel targets at distances out to 700m. Maybe there is another place, I really don't know?
Paper may be harder to shoot, but will never be as fun as steel.

Dave

Pics on the way, just need to get back out to work to have the time to do them.:) OK that just sounds bad.:redface:
 
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Dave42 said:
The .308's will always be at a disadvantage compared to the better calibers.

Perhaps there should be a separate class for the factory rifle's and .308's but that will be a debate while planning the next shoot and that probably won't be till next year.
Dave

Pics on the way, just need to get back out to work to have the time to do them.:) OK that just sounds bad.:redface:
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I think some calibers have advantages in different weather conditions for sure, but to seperate calibers and rifles......Nope!! remember the old saying It's a poor tradesman that blames his tools.

Bad weather....wind.....caliber of rifle...shooter...all part of the game different rifles will have different advanteges in different circimstances what makes a true rifle man is his ability to adapt to the situation and make the best of it with whatever tool he brings. This is a sniper type match, suck it up adapt and have fun. If some one outshoots you they out shoot you. Half the fun of these matches is adapting your dope to be on target, and those that have a good spotter/shooter team, that know thier rifle will succeed regaurdless of weather, or caliber they chose to shoot.

Just my humble opinion.....Now post the Damb pics:mad:........

P.s. Im off this weekend coming up...Mutt can you set up the range again and let me have a late entry....I'd be happy with 2nd place as a penalty.:p:D
 
Dave42 said:
Perhaps there should be a separate class for the factory rifle's and .308's but that will be a debate while planning the next shoot and that probably won't be till next year.
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Dave I am a fan of "Run what ya Brung"

Yes some calibres had an advantage but if you know your 308 no reason you can't run with the big dogs..
 
I like this format as well. What ends up happening when you have open and modified is then it becomes a "Horsepower" race. Hell there's days I can shoot my .223's out there and make a good number of hits.
 
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