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Hi Guys, Would appreciate some input.
Yesterday son and I went shooting. Brought along the .243, a US made blr.(a gun I've had since I was around 14 or so). It should be noted that it's always been consistant, and accurate, and my son and I are both pretty decent shots.
From 100 yds, first shot was about 6" high and right, second, opposite, third far right on the paper. Told son to try as maybe I'm pulling it or something. His shot's were pretty much the same. All over the paper.
To confirm it wasn't us, we both shot the 30-06 and 300, both under a 4" circle. It's obviously the .243, but:
My first thought is it's the scope, as it's a bottom line bushnell, and it's been on the rifle for more than 34 yrs, and literally thousands of rounds, and hundreds of hunting trips.
I'm also wondering, though, maybe the barrel's just plain getting worn out?? Rifling is visible, but is there any way to tell other than putting a new scope on it? Also, we were using a different lead(85gr nosler) than we usually use, I'll load up some of our traditional loads for it for next weekend, but surely a different load wouldn't be that wild, would it?
Thank you for your input. I shot my first deer with it, my son shot his, and I'm hoping that can continue.
 
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My first thoughts would be to put another scope on it from another gun you know is working fine and see what happens, usally if a barrel is shot out you would notice it grouping poorly in a slow progressive way not all at once, your scope mounts could be loose. I would start with the scope if it were me.
 
1) Check all mounting screws on the scope and the stock etc.
2) Look for hairline cracks in any wood. You may have to pull the stock to see.Had an uncle with a Norma that did just as you described. Quick stock repair and all was well
3) The scope. if it is variable power turn the power ring and feel for slips. This may indicate a change in POI when you change power. Pull the scope and shake it and listen for any rattles. Finally try a scope you know is worrking to see if the gun shoots better.
4) Have someone watch you shoot to see if you are flinching.

I doubt the barrel is shot out. It is probably one of the above. A POI that jumps around is usually a mechanical and not an ammo problem assuming the shooter is doing his job. Use a solid rest on a bench to check the rifle. And follow a set procedure for each group you try. Don't just blam away.

Good luck.
 
thanks

thanks for the input guys, it's appreciated. I've a 4x scope that was working well when removed, I'll take that, and our traditional 87 gr spitzer loads first.
Assumed it would be the scope, but never had this happen before, so wanted some input in case I was missing something. Would've never thought of the stock, either.
thanks again, sure we'll get it sorted out.
Bruce
 
Check the crown. The BLRs are cleaned from the muzzle and it's possible the crown was damaged by the cleaning rod. I've seen it happen on a 760 like that.



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how much copper fouling in your barrel ? i fixed a weatherby for a guy that shot all over, was just copper fouled badly, take your scope off and try it with the iron sights, shouldnt shot to bad with those,should give a 2 inch group at least, give you some idea, wade
 
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