Alpha-Proj Brno revolvers
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rustywoodtc
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- Mission, BC, CANADA
We have them in stock and ready to ship.
Also available are wood grip upgrades/options.
These are flying off the shelf.
ALFA-PROJ BRNO REVOLVERS MADE IN CZECH REPUBLIC
IN STOCK AND READY TO SHIP NOW !
ALL PRICES ARE PLUS TAX AND SHIPPING
MODEL: 2251 Steel CALIBER: 22 LR BBL: 4.5"
DA/SA Blued all steel 9 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front sight with red insert
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $529.00
MODEL: 251.1 CALIBER: 22LR BBL: 5"
DA/SA Blued alloy 9 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front sight
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $419.00
MODEL: 2261 Steel CALIBER:22LR BBL: 6"
DA/SA Blued all steel 9 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front sight with red insert
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $529.00
MODEL: 261.1 CALIBER: 22LR BBL: 6"
DA/SA Blued alloy 9 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front sight
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $419.00
MODEL: 2361 CALIBER: 22 WMR BBL: 6" Steel
DA/SA Blued all steel 8 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front with red insert
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $529.00
MODEL: 351.1 CALIBER: 22 WMR BBL: 5"
DA/SA Blued alloy 8 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front sight
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $419.00
MODEL: 361.1 CALIBER: 6" BBL: 22 WMR
DA/SA Blued alloy 8 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front sight
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $419.00
MODEL: 3551 CALIBER: 357 MAG BBL: 5"
DA/SA Blued all steel 6 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front with red insert
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $559.00
MODEL: 3561 CALIBER: 357 MAG BBL: 6"
DA/SA Blued all steel 6 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front with red insert
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $559.00
MODEL: 851 CALIBER: 38 SPL BBL: 5"
DA/SA Blued alloy 6 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front sight
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $419.00
MODEL: 861 CALIBER: 38 SPL BBL: 6"
DA/SA Blued alloy 6 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front sight
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $419.00
MODEL: 9251C Short Cylinder CALIBER: 9MM Luger BBL: 4.5" Steel
DA/SA Blued all steel 6 shot revolver. Can be fired without use of moon clips or with moon clips ( 2 moon clips and loading tool supplied with gun )
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front with red insert
Un-fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $559.00
MODEL: 9251C CALIBER: 9MM Luger BBL: 4.5" Steel
DA/SA Blued all steel 6 shot revolver. Can be fired without use of moon clips or with moon clips ( 2 moon clips and loading tool supplied with gun )
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front with red insert
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $559.00
MODEL: 9261 CALIBER: 9MM Luger BBL: 6" Steel
DA/SA Blued all steel 6 shot revolver. Can be fired without use of moon clips or with moon clips ( 2 moon clips and loading tool supplied with gun )
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front with red insert
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $559.00
Also available are wood grip upgrades/options.
These are flying off the shelf.
ALFA-PROJ BRNO REVOLVERS MADE IN CZECH REPUBLIC
IN STOCK AND READY TO SHIP NOW !
ALL PRICES ARE PLUS TAX AND SHIPPING
MODEL: 2251 Steel CALIBER: 22 LR BBL: 4.5"
DA/SA Blued all steel 9 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front sight with red insert
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $529.00
MODEL: 251.1 CALIBER: 22LR BBL: 5"
DA/SA Blued alloy 9 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front sight
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $419.00
MODEL: 2261 Steel CALIBER:22LR BBL: 6"
DA/SA Blued all steel 9 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front sight with red insert
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $529.00
MODEL: 261.1 CALIBER: 22LR BBL: 6"
DA/SA Blued alloy 9 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front sight
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $419.00
MODEL: 2361 CALIBER: 22 WMR BBL: 6" Steel
DA/SA Blued all steel 8 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front with red insert
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $529.00
MODEL: 351.1 CALIBER: 22 WMR BBL: 5"
DA/SA Blued alloy 8 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front sight
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $419.00
MODEL: 361.1 CALIBER: 6" BBL: 22 WMR
DA/SA Blued alloy 8 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front sight
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $419.00
MODEL: 3551 CALIBER: 357 MAG BBL: 5"
DA/SA Blued all steel 6 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front with red insert
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $559.00
MODEL: 3561 CALIBER: 357 MAG BBL: 6"
DA/SA Blued all steel 6 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front with red insert
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $559.00
MODEL: 851 CALIBER: 38 SPL BBL: 5"
DA/SA Blued alloy 6 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front sight
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $419.00
MODEL: 861 CALIBER: 38 SPL BBL: 6"
DA/SA Blued alloy 6 shot revolver
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front sight
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $419.00
MODEL: 9251C Short Cylinder CALIBER: 9MM Luger BBL: 4.5" Steel
DA/SA Blued all steel 6 shot revolver. Can be fired without use of moon clips or with moon clips ( 2 moon clips and loading tool supplied with gun )
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front with red insert
Un-fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $559.00
MODEL: 9251C CALIBER: 9MM Luger BBL: 4.5" Steel
DA/SA Blued all steel 6 shot revolver. Can be fired without use of moon clips or with moon clips ( 2 moon clips and loading tool supplied with gun )
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front with red insert
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $559.00
MODEL: 9261 CALIBER: 9MM Luger BBL: 6" Steel
DA/SA Blued all steel 6 shot revolver. Can be fired without use of moon clips or with moon clips ( 2 moon clips and loading tool supplied with gun )
Adjustable rear sight & ramp front with red insert
Fluted cylinder & Rubber grips
PRICE $559.00
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I found these two YouTube videos. The first one has english subtitles, but a different model than what Rusty Woods has listed. The 2nd one is the 9261 Revolver, but no english. Going to try one of these out. Looks like you don't have to use the moon clips, but ejecting is much easier with them. Hopefully can pick up some extra moon clips.
I got a response from Rusty Wood. The 9mm revolvers come with 2, but they are checking to see if they can get a hold of extra moon clips. I had a quick browse through Brownells and didn't spot any 9mm moon clips.
The 9mm is particularly interesting. I'd also like to see a real world run through...without the clips being used.
rustywoodtc
Expired Business Member
- Location
- Mission, BC, CANADA
FYI: Extra moon clips are being shipped from factory as we speak.
Final price is not determined yet because of exchange rate fluctuations. We have a boat load of them coming in and will post them on our web site as soon as they arrive.
Yes these revolvers can be shot without the use of moon clips as well.
Check out the small cylinder version. It sports a legal 4.5" barrel ( measure from crown to face of cylinder ) but because of the design has an overall length of a standard 4" version.
Peter
Final price is not determined yet because of exchange rate fluctuations. We have a boat load of them coming in and will post them on our web site as soon as they arrive.
Yes these revolvers can be shot without the use of moon clips as well.
Check out the small cylinder version. It sports a legal 4.5" barrel ( measure from crown to face of cylinder ) but because of the design has an overall length of a standard 4" version.
Peter
rustywoodtc
Expired Business Member
- Location
- Mission, BC, CANADA
NOW IN STOCK - ALFA PROJ Reduced Power Spring Tune Kit
Custom made music wire spring kit with stainless steel adjustment washers to dramatically reduce DA & SA trigger pull weights. Reduces pull weights to about 9.5# DA and 3.5# SA
Results vary depending on gun and condition. Comes with instructions for easy install.
PRICE $10.00 plus S/H & tax
Custom made music wire spring kit with stainless steel adjustment washers to dramatically reduce DA & SA trigger pull weights. Reduces pull weights to about 9.5# DA and 3.5# SA
Results vary depending on gun and condition. Comes with instructions for easy install.
PRICE $10.00 plus S/H & tax
Definitely going to have to get me one of these kits. The single action break is fin at 5lb's, but the double action break at ~14 lbs was really giving me a workout (just been dry firing at home so far). Good thing it's a nice smooth pull. Bet it will be even better with this spring kit.
You got your gun before me but I beat you to the range.... 
I just got to sneak in and shoot as the club's indoor range was closing for the night. Dumped the two moonclips worth and then had to step aside to let the guy with the broom sweep the brass....
I found out that from the short barrel version I got that 9mm in a revolver feels a LOT closer to .357Mag rounds than it does to .38Spl. It's got a real SNAP to it. It'll be interesting to see if the added weight of your 6 inch barrel soaks some of that up for you. I was a bit rushed and shot 8 of the twelve in DA mode so the groups were not as tight as I normally get due to the heavy pull and being a little rushed. I pulled the first group a trifle low so half were in the -0 and half in the -1 portion of the IDPA target. The second clip (I can say "clip" now instead of "mag") I put into the -0 head portion and got all 6 on target with 3 shot in SA and 3 in DA. Range to the target was around 12 to 14 yards during this quick trial.
I also got one of the lighter springs which I'm going to put in after I shoot one more session with the stock setup.
Plinker777, I didn't shoot it without moonclips but I did check to see how far the rounds chamber with and without moonclips. I need to check with shims but it sure does look like the rounds headspace on the rim mouths instead of the moonclip. I'm pretty sure I will be able to pull a slip of paper through easily between the moonclip and the back face of the cylinder.
The ejector does not have anything to catch the case grooves though. So unless the moonclip is used the casings will need to fall out from gravity or be pushed out with a little poker of some sort through the throats of the cylinder or we'll have to flick them out with a fingernail in the exposed rim grooves.
My time from here to Monday is booked solid. But next week the plan is to get out and do some shooting and put in the reduced force spring and shoot some more. Watch for a complete review of the gun and spring by mid week coming up. With detailed pictures, targets with holes and everything.
I just got to sneak in and shoot as the club's indoor range was closing for the night. Dumped the two moonclips worth and then had to step aside to let the guy with the broom sweep the brass....
I found out that from the short barrel version I got that 9mm in a revolver feels a LOT closer to .357Mag rounds than it does to .38Spl. It's got a real SNAP to it. It'll be interesting to see if the added weight of your 6 inch barrel soaks some of that up for you. I was a bit rushed and shot 8 of the twelve in DA mode so the groups were not as tight as I normally get due to the heavy pull and being a little rushed. I pulled the first group a trifle low so half were in the -0 and half in the -1 portion of the IDPA target. The second clip (I can say "clip" now instead of "mag"
) I put into the -0 head portion and got all 6 on target with 3 shot in SA and 3 in DA. Range to the target was around 12 to 14 yards during this quick trial.I also got one of the lighter springs which I'm going to put in after I shoot one more session with the stock setup.
Plinker777, I didn't shoot it without moonclips but I did check to see how far the rounds chamber with and without moonclips. I need to check with shims but it sure does look like the rounds headspace on the rim mouths instead of the moonclip. I'm pretty sure I will be able to pull a slip of paper through easily between the moonclip and the back face of the cylinder.
The ejector does not have anything to catch the case grooves though. So unless the moonclip is used the casings will need to fall out from gravity or be pushed out with a little poker of some sort through the throats of the cylinder or we'll have to flick them out with a fingernail in the exposed rim grooves.
My time from here to Monday is booked solid. But next week the plan is to get out and do some shooting and put in the reduced force spring and shoot some more. Watch for a complete review of the gun and spring by mid week coming up. With detailed pictures, targets with holes and everything.
Good for you BCRider! Looks like you really enjoying your new toy. I hope to get out sometime next week too. The closest range to me is a 1 hour drive away, so not easy to get get out there. Just been dry firing it to get used to that double action trigger pull - it's a great workout for my trigger finger lol
Did notice a couple of things in the double action trigger pull. The trigger return is very gritty. I don't have anything else to compare it to except my CZ Shadow which is silky smooth. Later on when I install the lighter spring, I'll have a look and see if I can polish that out. The other thing I noticed is I almost need to take my finger off the trigger to reset for the next double action pull. There are 3 distinct clicks when I slowly release the trigger: 1st click is loud midway, 2nd click is soft when the trigger is almost fully returned, and 3rd click is really tiny - just a little bit after the 2nd click. The challenge I found is that if I'm sometimes missing the 3rd click, the trigger won't pull back in double action.
Have attached a video to illustrate. I'm not really concerned at this time, because I'll be using this revolver for target shooting anyhow, so I can probably train myself around it. Is your Alpha trigger pull return the same?
Also, I checked the gap between the back of the cylinder (with fired cases loaded) and the back wall of the frame by the firing pin. I can slide a 0.08mm feeler through that gap, 0.10mm start to bind. My Alpha has the full length fluted cylinder though, a little different than yours. The rear of the cylinder is recessed so the seated rounds are flush with the outer rim of the cylinder. Have attached a pic below as well.
Did notice a couple of things in the double action trigger pull. The trigger return is very gritty. I don't have anything else to compare it to except my CZ Shadow which is silky smooth. Later on when I install the lighter spring, I'll have a look and see if I can polish that out. The other thing I noticed is I almost need to take my finger off the trigger to reset for the next double action pull. There are 3 distinct clicks when I slowly release the trigger: 1st click is loud midway, 2nd click is soft when the trigger is almost fully returned, and 3rd click is really tiny - just a little bit after the 2nd click. The challenge I found is that if I'm sometimes missing the 3rd click, the trigger won't pull back in double action.
Have attached a video to illustrate. I'm not really concerned at this time, because I'll be using this revolver for target shooting anyhow, so I can probably train myself around it. Is your Alpha trigger pull return the same?
Also, I checked the gap between the back of the cylinder (with fired cases loaded) and the back wall of the frame by the firing pin. I can slide a 0.08mm feeler through that gap, 0.10mm start to bind. My Alpha has the full length fluted cylinder though, a little different than yours. The rear of the cylinder is recessed so the seated rounds are flush with the outer rim of the cylinder. Have attached a pic below as well.
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kschneider
Regular
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- southern ontario
Yes, that or nickel is what I'm waiting for. Should be sweet.
Vanman, in all my focus on the pull I didn't check the release. Mine too has two clicks in the release. The first is barely heard and I don't feel anything through the trigger. The second just before the last of the release travel produces a slight hesitation in the trigger motion just like yours.
As part of my bigger review and swapping the mainspring I plan on removing the side cover. Then we'll see what is what.
The slightly "ticky" second snag feels like a small burr or two parts passing over a sharper sort of corner. If it's not some grit in the action I'd be willing to bet an E-beer that it'll smoothen itself out from just being worked more during firing or dry firing.
I also noticed that I can really only feel these release ticks if we release slowly like you're doing in the video. When released in a normal shooting manner the inertia seems to let the parts glide past each other with more smoothness and doesn't telegraph through the trigger as much.
If you're like me and have not flushed and re-oiled keep in mind that the sort of oils that are best for long term corrosion resistance are not always the best for lubricating. We might both feel some added smoothness by solvent flushing and re-oiling with a better quality lubricant.
I remember that my Shadow bot a BIG boost in smoothness after the first cleaning when the factory crud was replaced with Breakfree CLP at the first cleaning following a couple of hundred rounds. The empty casings even ejected farther to the side. A sure sign that the old factory gunk was sub standard as a proper lubricant.
As part of my bigger review and swapping the mainspring I plan on removing the side cover. Then we'll see what is what.
The slightly "ticky" second snag feels like a small burr or two parts passing over a sharper sort of corner. If it's not some grit in the action I'd be willing to bet an E-beer that it'll smoothen itself out from just being worked more during firing or dry firing.
I also noticed that I can really only feel these release ticks if we release slowly like you're doing in the video. When released in a normal shooting manner the inertia seems to let the parts glide past each other with more smoothness and doesn't telegraph through the trigger as much.
If you're like me and have not flushed and re-oiled keep in mind that the sort of oils that are best for long term corrosion resistance are not always the best for lubricating. We might both feel some added smoothness by solvent flushing and re-oiling with a better quality lubricant.
I remember that my Shadow bot a BIG boost in smoothness after the first cleaning when the factory crud was replaced with Breakfree CLP at the first cleaning following a couple of hundred rounds. The empty casings even ejected farther to the side. A sure sign that the old factory gunk was sub standard as a proper lubricant.
Forgot about your cylinder headspacing.
The short cylinder on mine doesn't have the rear recess like yours. So the moon clip and heads of the casings are easily seen. Which for my purpose of speed style shooting will allow for faster reloads because there won't be that extra wall around the edge to snag on.
Your head space of .08mm, or .003 inch to us old farts, is a good one. Looking around at revolver headspace articles out on the web it suggests that it's on the smaller and tighter side of good. As long as you don't run into any long brass it'll be fine. Or you may also notice a change in this dimension as you go from brand to brand.
I just checked with two empty casings picked at random and mounted in the moonclip. One pushed in and the moonclip held it back from headspacing off the mouth. So the rim and clip is holding the headspace. The second casing headspaced off the rim against the shoulder in the chamber and the moonclip was easily moved. I measured the difference between the two cases at .001 difference in length. One being .7395 and the other being .7385 on my dial caliper. And no, I don't want to swear that this is accurate to within 1/10 of a thou. But as a comparative measurement the key is that one casing is pretty much .001" longer than the other. And that this .001" was enough that the moonclip was pressed tight to the cylinder in one case and free to rotate easily in the other. The test was done with the two casings in opposite stations of the clip and put in so the clip hung to the outside. You would not be able to duplicate this test on yours due to the rim around the recess.
This does suggest though that as long as we don't run into brass that is much longer than .740" that we should be OK for headspace issues.
The short cylinder on mine doesn't have the rear recess like yours. So the moon clip and heads of the casings are easily seen. Which for my purpose of speed style shooting will allow for faster reloads because there won't be that extra wall around the edge to snag on.
Your head space of .08mm, or .003 inch to us old farts
, is a good one. Looking around at revolver headspace articles out on the web it suggests that it's on the smaller and tighter side of good. As long as you don't run into any long brass it'll be fine. Or you may also notice a change in this dimension as you go from brand to brand. I just checked with two empty casings picked at random and mounted in the moonclip. One pushed in and the moonclip held it back from headspacing off the mouth. So the rim and clip is holding the headspace. The second casing headspaced off the rim against the shoulder in the chamber and the moonclip was easily moved. I measured the difference between the two cases at .001 difference in length. One being .7395 and the other being .7385 on my dial caliper. And no, I don't want to swear that this is accurate to within 1/10 of a thou. But as a comparative measurement the key is that one casing is pretty much .001" longer than the other. And that this .001" was enough that the moonclip was pressed tight to the cylinder in one case and free to rotate easily in the other. The test was done with the two casings in opposite stations of the clip and put in so the clip hung to the outside. You would not be able to duplicate this test on yours due to the rim around the recess.
This does suggest though that as long as we don't run into brass that is much longer than .740" that we should be OK for headspace issues.
That trigger reset in vanman's vid is freaking me out. Can someone take pics of the internals?
@rider; thanks for the preliminary, comprehensive, honest review. Are your chambers straight cut to the neck of the brass?
@rider; thanks for the preliminary, comprehensive, honest review. Are your chambers straight cut to the neck of the brass?
You mean like the chambers being constant diameter? I would hope not. The 9mm luger is a tapered case and the chambers would need to mimic that angle or the brass would deform horribly.
As I mentioned the little hesitation in the reset simply isn't present if there's much of any speed used for the release. I don't mean you just slide your finger to the side either. Even a fairly casual "normal" release doesn't produce the little click of hesitation. It only shows when released super slow like Vanman did.
As I mentioned the little hesitation in the reset simply isn't present if there's much of any speed used for the release. I don't mean you just slide your finger to the side either. Even a fairly casual "normal" release doesn't produce the little click of hesitation. It only shows when released super slow like Vanman did.
