Am I missing something, or just a sucker?

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Hi everyone,

I'm brand new to optics and I picked up a new rifle and scope at Ellwood Epps this weekend. I don't know a whole lot about scopes but I had been told not to cheap out to much and since this was my first rifle with a scope I budgeted $300-600. I asked the rep to recommend some scopes for the gun and he came out this a Bushnell Engage 3-9X40 will illumination. I tried it out and it seemed decent, but I don't know much so it was basically a leap of faith.

The scope was $495, and it's listed as that price on their website: https://ellwoodepps.com/bushnell-engage-3-9x40-illuminated-multi-x-riflescope-black.html

However I got home and was trying to look up the manual on the scope and general info, and I noticed the same scope is on sale pretty much everywhere for $200, regular $300

https://www.cabelas.ca/product/142239

https://www.amazon.ca/Hunting-Rifle-3-9x40-Engage-Illuminated/dp/B07WZQBXSG/ref=sr_1_1?crid=362SRGCDILDW8&keywords=RE3940BS9&qid=1706455656&sprefix=re3940bs9%2Caps%2C88&sr=8-1

Am I missing something by mismatching the products, IE is there some difference that I am missing?

Or an I just an idiot and got taken for a sucker / taught an expensive lesson?
 
1) Yes, you gotten taken.

2) Wes Winkel, the owner of Elwood Epps, is helping the Liberals confiscate guns. Even if he had the best price you shouldn't be spending money there unless you support having your guns taken away.
 
MK2750 said:
You should be able to return it or at least exchange it if not happy.
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Thanks yeah hopefully. When I asked them to mount and bore sight it I asked about the return and they didn't really answer exactly what the policy was but mentioned since it would have marks from mounting that would affect my ability to return it so I don't know yet what that's gonna cost me.
 
U should absolutely never buy local before checking prices across Canada for the same item unless you choose to support local regardless of price .
 
MK2750 said:
You should be able to return it or at least exchange it if not happy.
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mactroneng said:
1) Yes, you gotten taken.

2) Wes Winkel, the owner of Elwood Epps, is helping the Liberals confiscate guns. Even if he had the best price you shouldn't be spending money there unless you support having your guns taken away.
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1) Thanks for confirming that.

2) I'm just starting to come across some of that in the form posts here... comes as quite a surprise to me. They seemed like a locally owned shop and so a good place to spend money vs a chain store. Sucks to see this kind of stuff. On the one hand I can understand them not wanting to just lose a ton of money on stock that they can't sell as well but on the other it seems people are suggesting there could be other alternatives? I don't really know enough to say much on the topic.
 
If your rings are good quality and care was taken when mounted there should be no marks on the scope!
I would remove the scope and inspect it, clean it up and pack it up in the original box if you still have it and return it for full refund.
 
Stef144 said:
Thanks yeah hopefully. When I asked them to mount and bore sight it I asked about the return and they didn't really answer exactly what the policy was but mentioned since it would have marks from mounting that would affect my ability to return it so I don't know yet what that's gonna cost me.
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They mounted the scope therefore they should take responsibility for any damages incurred.
Refund the difference in price from a competitor, exchange for a better quality scope (you pay difference) full refund and you buy elsewhere.
Or chalk it up to experience and let your dollars shop elsewhere in the future.
 
Hrsplit said:
U should absolutely never buy local before checking prices across Canada for the same item unless you choose to support local regardless of price .
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Fair .. to be honest I was probably caught up in the excitement and should have done some googling on my phone. I'd be happy to spend 5-15% more on local, or something in that range. But this is 250% - I really thought I must be missing something as that's a price disparity I don't think I've ever seen before.
 
FLHTCUI said:
They mounted the scope therefore they should take responsibility for any damages incurred.
Refund the difference in price from a competitor, exchange for a better quality scope (you pay difference) full refund and you buy elsewhere.
Or chalk it up to experience and let your dollars shop elsewhere in the future.
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I agree 100% with what you are saying.

I'll contact them, explain the situation and see what they can do. I do not want to jump down anyone's throat or anything without at least calling in and explaining the situation and seeing how they might respond. Could have been a simple pricing error on their end - I don't know.

In the scheme of life $300 is not life changing, just a lesson. The part that bothers me is that I told them I didn't know much about scopes, etc. and was trusting their experience. If that was an opportunity for them to take advantage then I think that's pretty shameful. If it's just a mistake then I would hate to be throwing shade their way. It won't be possible to know either way until I speak to them.
 
Sako270 said:
If your rings are good quality and care was taken when mounted there should be no marks on the scope!
I would remove the scope and inspect it, clean it up and pack it up in the original box if you still have it and return it for full refund.
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They mounted the scope and chose the rings - so I think I'll leave it all as they had it unless they tell me to do otherwise.

Even if they say that the scope will be damaged from mounting - like another poster said - they were the ones who mounted it.

I could also offer to stop by cabellas and buy the same scope brand new for $200 and they could take that new scope back in exchange for my $500.
 
Stef144 said:
They mounted the scope and chose the rings - so I think I'll leave it all as they had it unless they tell me to do otherwise.

Even if they say that the scope will be damaged from mounting - like another poster said - they were the ones who mounted it.

I could also offer to stop by cabellas and buy the same scope brand new for $200 and they could take that new scope back in exchange for my $500.
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good idea, same scope unless there is serial numbers on the bill
 
I would go in person with your receipt and explain the situation, maybe they give you a store credit or something. People in person are harder to ignore than an email. Unfortunately it was your decision to buy without price checking elsewhere. I doubt they will refund or exchange for a scope that has been mounted.
 
Really after you brought the scope cost issue up with them, rather than doing a return they should just offer a partial refund on the price difference of the scope. I have never dealt with them so can’t say what they are like.
 
Thanks folks - their store website says they have a 10% restocking fee on returns.

I've called and got through to someone twice today. First time the rep said they would get the owner to talk to me, and then I got left on hold for 5+ minutes before it went to voicemail.

Called back and no answer. Tried again a little while later and explained what had happened and the rep said "Oh, ok give me one second he's right here" - again 5+ minute wait and then I get sent to voicemail.

Not looking great in the customer service department so far.
 
You have to be careful when looking at stuff on Amazon and e bay as there are knockoff brands pretending to be legit ones
I would compare prices with another gun store like prophet, Tenda, bullseye, etc before speculating that Epps may have overcharged on the scope
Just my 2 cents
 
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