Am i the only one Muzzle brake????

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I purchased a Ruger m77 mark2 in stainless with a laminate stock. Shooting off the bench with this gun can shoot out to 300 yards accurately/easily. I hunt out of a ground blind or a treestand. I mounted an Harris Bi-pod on the front. I dont mind the recoil as i shoot a 10 guage shotgun with no problems. What i find though is the muzzle jump is very hard to controll using a bi-pod as you cant really bear down on the front of the rifle. I am not capable of shooting out to 300 yards free hand. I would never shoot at a game animal at that range unless i was using the bi-pod or another rest. I am about to send it in and get a muzzle brake. The guy assured me that this will help the muzzle jump lots. I see lots of people shoot 300s onthis sight is the ruger more prone to muzzle jump or is it just me. I am not a nb to hunting have hunted for a few decades and would not shoot at a animal beyond my capabilities. I know the gun can do it off the bench i just want to have the same results using my Harris bipod. What do you guys think.

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If you are shooting off a bipod with a brake,be prepared to have dust and snow fly in front of you when you shoot.Also be warned that you must NEVER EVER fire a braked rifle without hearing protection.A single shot fired without protection can cause permanent hearing damage.Are you prepared to wear hearing protection while hunting?I personally shoot the 300 ultramag without a brake and have no problems at all with recoil or with muzzle lift,but my own rifles have heavier contour barrels and mcmillan stocks with decellerators installed.
 
I have a 300 WM chambered Savage with light barrel and synthetic stock. It really jumps. Its never caught me with the scope in the eye, but I know its coming too close for comfort. I think that's par for the course with those sort of rifles. The stock shape may play some role in this as well. I'm replacing it with a Boyds laminate some day when it arrives.
 
I can handle the recoil just fine. Its hard to use the rifle to its full potential with out using a rest. I dont know many people who can shoot 300 free hand ethically. With out being able to bear down on the front of the rifle when using the bi-pod its hard to controll muzzle lift.
 
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Methinks a safer for your ears option is to add weight to your hunting rig...or get electronic earmuffs for hunting, and go with a muzzle brake.
 
300 yards?...ever thought of a lighter caliber?...there are many cartridges that will easily kill game at 300 yards and can be shot comfortably off a bipod....sounds like your Ruger is a 300 Win Mag.....sell it and get one in 270 or 308 or something like that.
The deer will never know the difference....but your ears will.
 
Can you put a sling on it beneath the bipod, then hold the front end down with the other hand on the sling to keep it from jumping so much? What exactly is th e problem the jumping is causing? Is the scope catching you in the eye?
 
Muzzle Brake.

I wouldn't put one on if you paid me.I shoot a 300wm belgian bar,Topped with a 2.5x10 elite 4200 (3 1/4 in eye reliefe) No problems with muzzle jump,but the rubber edge of the scope has touched my eyebrow once or twice,(no harm) it just reminds me to hold onto her better.I got rid of the jump and hoof by loading 165 gr hornady interlocks btsp over 4350.she's pretty sweet now.The lighter lead will soften the hoof noticeably.The 4pt buck I got last sunday went 60 yds after lung shot,and I couldn't believe the blood/lung splatter behind where he stood.The spatter was 3.5-4ft off the ground and about 10 feet deep.165,s will tame her down for you.Try that instead of the m/z/b.ttyl
 
Get your reloading kit;), buy some barnes 165 grain tsx triple shock bullets(they work as good as 180 gr with better ballistics)the lighter bullet gives less recoil and load down to 30-06 levels if you still want even less recoil.
You have the advantage of loading up 200 grain bullets with maximum loads later for bears since reloading gives you options going up or down over factory loads:).
 
There are far better alternatives to recoil than muzzle brakes. Good recoil pads such as Limsavers, Pachmayers and for bench shooting a Past shoulder pad. I use a recoil reduction system on my .338 which reduces recoil better than any of the above, costly though.
 
Moose hunter,

No offense intended but Rembo has hit it on the head.

If 300 yards is all you want to shoot there are many choices that are both easier on the shooter and will do the job just fine.

The 308, 30-06, 7 mag, will do most everything the 300 Win out to 300.

Yes the brake works well. Perhaps its best use is for practice shooting but I would remove it for hunting.

A brake on a hunting rifle is a mistake that most of us (me included) have made.......Must be be your turn!:D

Good luck!
 
The worst mistake i had made was adding a break to my 300 wby, dam thing is so loud now you cant shoot it with out ear protection, and in the woods, ear protection and still hunting do mot mix!
 
I have used the sling method with the bipod and it works well. I shoot a Savage 116 in 330Dakota (338). It launches 250 grainers at 3000fps out of a sporter weight barrel, so yes it will jump.
 
You'll drink to anything.

Magnaporting is less obtrusive then a muzzle brake, and not as loud, but controls muzzle jump fairly well. As mentioned, the jump is exaggerated by "bipod bounce". You need to find a way to anchor the front end more solidly, or switch to a different kind of rest in your blind. Also, is the bipod on a hard surface? That makes the bounce worse. - dan
 
I'd mount a shooting rail in the blind with a sandbag or something, if its a fixed blind. If your using a portable tent blind, maybe shooting sticks would work better than the bipod.
 
I made the mistake of trying a firearm with a muzzle brake whilst working( out of a vehicle), I managed to part my hair and deafen my dog with the first shot(it got worse from there), I also managed(due to momentary stupidity) to fire a shot without earmuffs which landed me with a massive head-ache.
Personally I would recommend against using one of these add-ons unless using it in open terrain with no trees or any other obstruction to enclose the sound.
And for Gods sake USE earmuffs with it !
 
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