Ammo question?!?

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Hi there everyone,

I just got a Glock 17 Gen 4 :)

I was just wondering what ammo people prefer to run in there Glocks, especially the new Gen 4s, but any input is appreciated still!

I'm mostly wondering weather or not to get 115gr or 124gr? I know there is a 147gr as well but thats a bit much for punching paper.

I'm going to be getting CCI Blazer ammo, the Aluminum cased non-reloaded kind as I'm not a reloader and the price is right.

SOOOO, 114gr or 124gr????

Thanks everyone
 
I enjoy sellier-bellot standard 9mm ammunition or standard winchester white box. I personally don't notice a real big difference between 115, 124, and 147 grain but that is just me. Both are relatively inexpensive so try 'em out and see what you enjoy :)
 
There really is no felt difference - if you think about it, it makes sense. 115 grain and 124 grain, that's a 9 grain difference in bullet weight, in other words it's a 9/7,000 ths of a pound difference. Likewise 115 to 147 grain is a 32/7,000 ths of a pound difference. Your Glock will shoot any of them better than all but the most skilled shooter. As far as velocity goes, a subsonic 147 goes out at about 950 fps, while a 115 goes out at about 1250 (max) very little discernible difference.
 
Thanks for the input everyone :)

On my way to get a case of 124gr as that case is 5 bucks cheaper at the moment, I'm sure it will eat threw it no problems and maybe I'll try a case of the 115gr next time. I was just curious what people prefer to run, but why not just try 1000 rounds of each myself and ill be the judge. Go big or go home right :) Thanks again!

Happy shooting!
 
enefgee said:
There really is no felt difference - if you think about it, it makes sense. 115 grain and 124 grain, that's a 9 grain difference in bullet weight, in other words it's a 9/7,000 ths of a pound difference. Likewise 115 to 147 grain is a 32/7,000 ths of a pound difference. Your Glock will shoot any of them better than all but the most skilled shooter. As far as velocity goes, a subsonic 147 goes out at about 950 fps, while a 115 goes out at about 1250 (max) very little discernible difference.
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I think that the difference is noticeable but now that I think about it, it could be because heavier bullets get less powder in the casing.

Maybe it's the combination of more weight to push and less powder??
I noticed a significant difference when I dropped my powder measurement down 0.2gr from the max recommended load.
 
jacoblombardo said:
Thanks for the input everyone :)

On my way to get a case of 124gr as that case is 5 bucks cheaper at the moment, I'm sure it will eat threw it no problems and maybe I'll try a case of the 115gr next time. I was just curious what people prefer to run, but why not just try 1000 rounds of each myself and ill be the judge. Go big or go home right :) Thanks again!

Happy shooting!
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Can't go wrong buying more ammo...
Your glock will go through 147s as well, so you might as well buy 1k of them too. :D
 
TDC said:
It doesn't matter. Your glock will eat everything but birdshot. The performance "difference" between brands and weights is a myth.

Tdc
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While the gun will happily eat it all, there certainly can be performance differences between brands and bullet weights from gun to gun and the quality of recoil can vary substantially with different bullet weights.


enefgee said:
There really is no felt difference - if you think about it, it makes sense. 115 grain and 124 grain, that's a 9 grain difference in bullet weight, in other words it's a 9/7,000 ths of a pound difference. Likewise 115 to 147 grain is a 32/7,000 ths of a pound difference. Your Glock will shoot any of them better than all but the most skilled shooter. As far as velocity goes, a subsonic 147 goes out at about 950 fps, while a 115 goes out at about 1250 (max) very little discernible difference.
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You are looking at it wrong, 124gr is 8% heavier than 115gr and 147gr is 28% heavier. Even with equal muzzle energies those are large enough changes in bullet weight to change the quality of recoil. I don't think many will notice a difference between the 115gr and 124gr, but the 147gr certainly felt different to me. None of them are bad, but they aren't the same.


metcalfe said:
I think that the difference is noticeable but now that I think about it, it could be because heavier bullets get less powder in the casing.

Maybe it's the combination of more weight to push and less powder??
I noticed a significant difference when I dropped my powder measurement down 0.2gr from the max recommended load.
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The load is tweaked to produce safe pressures, having less room in the case is not the issue. If all bullet weights are loaded to the same muzzle energy that equates to having the same average pressure, but the recoil will not feel the same for them all.

As a general rule (not for 9mm specifically), I have found that lighter bullets at higher velocity seem to be snappier and heavier bullets at lower velocity seem to give a smoother push, even if they actually have more recoil energy.


Mark
 
jacoblombardo said:
Hi there everyone,

I just got a Glock 17 Gen 4 :)

I was just wondering what ammo people prefer to run in there Glocks, especially the new Gen 4s, but any input is appreciated still!

I'm mostly wondering weather or not to get 115gr or 124gr? I know there is a 147gr as well but thats a bit much for punching paper.

I'm going to be getting CCI Blazer ammo, the Aluminum cased non-reloaded kind as I'm not a reloader and the price is right.

SOOOO, 114gr or 124gr????

Thanks everyone
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Who cares? Use whatever you want or can find or is the cheapest. It makes not a shred of difference, you will only be punching paper.
 
TDC said:
It doesn't matter. Your glock will eat everything but birdshot. The performance "difference" between brands and weights is a myth.

Tdc
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I've seen huge difference with different brands, weights, etc, both recoil and accuracy.

Used to use 115 because it was cheapest.
then tried 124 - definitely less recoil. Three different brands very different accuracy. One always shot a bit higher than the other two.

I think you have to try different ammo and figure it out gradually. If you are just starting out, though, it probably doesn't matter much. Buy the cheapest so you can shoot as much as possible. But if you are competing in any discipline, or just want to be accurate, there are differences.
 
TJspeller said:
I've seen huge difference with different brands, weights, etc, both recoil and accuracy.

Used to use 115 because it was cheapest.
then tried 124 - definitely less recoil. Three different brands very different accuracy. One always shot a bit higher than the other two.

I think you have to try different ammo and figure it out gradually. If you are just starting out, though, it probably doesn't matter much. Buy the cheapest so you can shoot as much as possible. But if you are competing in any discipline, or just want to be accurate, there are differences.
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At first I shot anything.. now I try to shoot 147g if I have a choice, it seems to me to matter more with the lighter guns..
 
Well it appears you now have your answer between this post and your identical posting over in the Ammo thread..Beware in future as the Mods will swing the hammer of justice for multiple posts..
 
Maybe I don't notice the difference because I go from 45 to 9mm, I just never feel any difference within 9mm - there's a definite difference between 45acp 200 g SWC's and 230 g hollowpoints though.
 
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