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Okay. Im a newbie at all of this and im not sure how to secure my ammo. I got a small ammo can for storage and transport of my 9mm and .22.

I want to know for those who also use ammo cans, how did you modify it to make it lockabe? thanks!

Duke878
 
I have a metal cabinet that locks, I keep several ammo cans in there. As long as it is locked separately from the firearm, there is no problem. You can keep ammo in another room, another building, or a lockable container right next to your firearm cabinet, as long as they lock separately. A latch that screws or rivets onto the ammo can works fine as long as you can lock it as well.
 
There is no requirement to lock up ammunition. Neither is there any requirement to store ammo and guns seperately. I have locking steel briefcases for my ammo. I can't remember the last time I locked them. I have also had all my equipment briefly seized. No issues with storage were mentioned...
 
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There is no requirement to lock up ammunition. Neither is there any requirement to store ammo and guns seperately. I have locking steel briefcases for my ammo. I can't remember the last time I locked them. I have also had all my equipment briefly seized. No issues with storage were mentioned...
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I would disagree, from what I remember ammo is to be stored
A. separate from the firearms (different room?)
B. Locked, then it can be not-separate from the firearms
C. Locked, together with the firearms in a cabinet or safe.


9.3 Storage
a. A non-restricted firearm may be stored only under the following conditions:
. lt is unloaded, and

. Rendered inoperable by using a secure locking device or
. By removing the bolt or bolt-carrier or
. Stored in a securely locked container, receptacle, or room that cannot be
easily broken open or into (see Figure 73); and

. Not within easy access to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored,
together with or separately from the firearm, in a securely locked container or
receptacle that cannot be easily broken open or into.
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Scanned from my CFSC book


True, ammo does not have to be locked up, but that then means it has to be separate or in the same safe.


Looking at my restricted book, it appears to say basically the same thing just worded different due to restricted storage.








EDIT: either way, getting off topic.

Google has a few different ways
http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/product/ammo-can-lock-a-3piece-can-it-system-4332.cfm
http://www.klr650.net/forums/showthread.php?t=55758

I have not used a lock on a ammo can myself.
 
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Duke878 said:
Okay. Im a newbie at all of this and im not sure how to secure my ammo. I got a small ammo can for storage and transport of my 9mm and .22.

I want to know for those who also use ammo cans, how did you modify it to make it lockabe? thanks!

Duke878
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The hasp is only held on by a C-shaped wire bale on the opening end. You could secure the flapper with a pin and a padlock, but if you really didn't want anyone getting inside, you are better to put the hasp on the side of the lid.

I've seen a gadget online that was two parts ( majorsurplus dot com/Ammo-Can-Lock-A-3-Piece-Can-It-System-2-Pack--P15077.aspx ). The first was a long L-shaped spoon and the second was a short post. The idea was to drill a hole into the can from the end. Then secure the spoon over the entire opening mechanism, and catch the spoon and post with a padlock.
 
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The padlocks with the 3" u-shaped part work, put it through the hole and around the bar and the steel flap thingy...lol . no really it works
 
Here is what the 'not black and white' Criminal Code says.

86. (1) Every person commits an offence
who, without lawful excuse, uses, carries, handles,
ships, transports or stores a firearm, a prohibited
weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited
device or any ammunition or prohibited
ammunition in a careless manner or without
reasonable precautions for the safety of other
persons.
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So if the coppers don't like your setup......
 
If coppers don't like your setup or you period you are screwed regardless. You can have a 1000 pound safe and have thieves take 2 days to break into it and still be charged. Happend to a guy in toronto just recently. There is no winning this battle and trying will drive you ####in nutz. Not the good nutz either.
 
It's not a bad idea to keep it locked up somehow, regardless of the requirement. You may need someone to take care of your house/cat/dog/goldfish at some point, and locked-up ammo is less likely to evaporate. Canadian Tire red metal toolboxes go on sale every now and then, and they will readily take a padlock. Cheap, effective.
 
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