Anchutz 54 Should I Get Rimfire Rings Or A Rail To Take Regular Rings??

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I have an Anschutz 54 and my eyes aren't that great so I want to mount a scope on it.

I have a couple of scopes in 1 inch and one in 30mm and I was thinking of buying both kinds of rings to set it up.

A friend of mine said I should get a rail to take regular rings, but I heard they are 0 MOA and 20 MOA.

I will only shoot a maximum of 100 yards but 25 and 50 yards will be the normal and I don't compete.

Which one would you get if you are in this situation and where could I get them?

Just want some honest opinions from shooters with experience.

Thanks
Al
 
Actually, the 3/8in or 11mm dovetail rings that clamp onto the recesses cut into the receiver work just fine.

I recently had the opportunity to check out the difference on an extremely accurate Tikka T1.

I ended up going to a picatinny style rail, which the rifle is drilled and tapped for, but only because I had already purchased it and the scope mounted on it was all set up and sighted in.

In terms of practical useage, either for target shooting or hunting, at the ranges you suggest, I seriously doubt you will notice the difference.

I didn't notice any accuracy differences with the same scope, on the same rifle with either set of rings or rings and bases.

In all honesty, while adding the specially adapted rail to the dovetail on the receiver and screwing it down, I was wondering if I might just be adding another thing that could go wrong.

I also have a Brno No2 that utilizes a a set of Leupold, 11mm, clamp type rings with a 3-9 Leupold vxiii on it. It has held zero, without fail for over ten years. The only time it needs some minor adjustment is with a different lot of ammo.
 
albayo said:
I have an Anschutz 54 and my eyes aren't that great so I want to mount a scope on it.

I have a couple of scopes in 1 inch and one in 30mm and I was thinking of buying both kinds of rings to set it up.

A friend of mine said I should get a rail to take regular rings, but I heard they are 0 MOA and 20 MOA.

I will only shoot a maximum of 100 yards but 25 and 50 yards will be the normal and I don't compete.

Which one would you get if you are in this situation and where could I get them?

Just want some honest opinions from shooters with experience.

Thanks
Al
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Depends on your application and needs. If you intend to just mount a scope and rarely take it off, rimfire (11mm dovetail) rings are fine and somewhat preferable for easier single loading your Annie 54.

If you are frequently taking the scope off and want the convenience of easy indexing of slots between rifles, a rail + rings might be preferrable. Most rails have some form of relief cut for ejection but make for difficult to drop a round in by design of being a complete slotted Picatinny rail. DIP and some others have a large cutout for single-loading. If going for a rail, 0 MOA would be fine for your uses.

I have a set of new 1" Warne rings (for 11mm and 3/8" dovetails) I have EE. They are great rings in my opinion but they were a touch too low for my intended large objective scope and HB rifle.
 
Just my opinion but the fact you can remove and replace the scope so easily with a rail. The rails I had were cutout the same as the action which,too me, made single loading easier. The main tube and elevation/windage sections seemed higher with the rail and proper barrel clearance. The ability of removing and replacing with no redialing is a big plus. I remove my scopes when I clean my rifles. Just my opinion
 
IIRC the DIP model cost me around $100 delivered through the USA.

If your receiver is drilled and tapped the model that slides on to your rail and screwed to the action is extremely secure.

The DIP slides on to your rail and set screws are screwed into place in a special sequence. These set screws can arr your action and a 7 1/2 or 8 lead can be used to avoid the marring.

The Leupold 54234 in 1"high model will probably work too given the application you are suggesting, but you may not need the higher mount depending on your scope.
They may not be available in 30mm.

In the picture, the DIP rail with Weaver style rings appear on the top rifle and the Leupold 54234 Ringmounts on the bottom rifle.

 
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Airguns of Arizona and air gun source sell adjustable height scope rings that are nice to have.

The main reason is that when paired with a scope like most guys use on a 22, with no zero stop, the elevation can be set so your 50 yard zero is just off the bottom limit of travel... This way you can always find zero by dialing to the bottom and come up to zero.

That is actually functionally better than most zero stop systems because you can dial down below zero.... Often times a zero stop scope will not allow that.

If you ever decide to shoot farther, then you have the option to use almost all your elevation. Again, this is better than using a 20 MOA rail, since you only get 20 MOA... for a 22, you might want 30 or 40 MOA, but you may not know that until the situation presents itself.

As for fitting your dovetail... They sell these little adapters so you can actually use rings for a Weaver/Pic rail, but use the adapter to fit your dovetail... they might run 10 bucks a pair.
 
I have dovetail rings in both 1 inch and 30mm for my Annie 54. I also have the DIP rail that I haven't used yet, but I use picatinny rings on some of my other rimfires.

I think the dovetail mounts are more elegant looking, lighter and less bulky compared to the picatinny (I use a picatinny rail on an Annie 64). Never had trouble zeroing at 100 yards with regular rings - I don't think you need the 20 MOA rail if you're just shooting at shorter ranges. Vertical split rings (such as Talley's) look real nice on a 54 sporter, but IMO they're a pain to mount and a royal pain if you want to move the scope around. I use BKL's in 1-inch and 30mm currently.

The picatinny rails are much nicer to have if you're going to swap scopes more often or if you need the 20 MOA (or other) compensation. If you're going to get a rail, just get the 20 MOA one (IMO).

Summary: IMO, for an elegant 54 sporter where you're rarely going to remove the scope and you want something elegant, get dovetail rings. If you're not too concerned about the aesthetics, if you shoot longer range or if you move scopes around more often, consider the picatinny.
 
I have both Rail and Rimfire rings and I do prefer rimfire rings, I find out that rail is creating some interference with ejection port and restrict access. so if you don't need that much of windage this is the option I would choose . I like Warnes rimfire rings but Talley are really well made.
 
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