Annealing new cases

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Does anyone anneal new unfired cases ? I have some old stock ( new ) WW ( white box ) 358 Win cases that I am considering annealing. . I purchased several boxes, one box was fired once but looked nearly as good as the other new unfired ones. I loaded and fired the once fired box with 50.6/748/200gr and the fired cases showed signs of gas leakage around the necks. It feels odd to be thinking about annealing new cases ? I would be interested in the thoughts of others about this subject.
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If you're the kind of person that anneals after every firing (like me), then you might want to anneal brand new cases (like me).
I believe it produces fireforming most akin to my other firings.
Otherwise, don't lose any sleep over it...
 
Not new but definitely after each firing. New or others once fired brass I use for fun freehand shooting, never for hunting or paper. I don't really know if it makes that much of a difference but its what I've done for years and its been working for me. Everything fired formed to one rifle, annualed the same, resize the same, trimmed the same = shoots the same... in theory ;)
 
OP, there are quite a few people who never anneal their cartridge cases, and just throw them away after 3-4 reloads. A few even throw them away after the second reload.

Most people never anneal.

It's up to you and what efforts you're willing to put into the care of your now very expensive cases.

For instance, I don't worry about my cases not being bright and shiny. Yes, I wash my cases, with hot water and soap, if they need it, but tumbling is off the table, as is sonic cleaning, etc. If the carbon builds up too much on the case necks, then a bit of bore cleaner on some steel wool is used to clean it off. Carburetor cleaner works good as well for some stubborn stuff.

That was off topic, but an example of your query.

Some component manufacturers, as well as some commercial loaders "anneal" the case shoulders and necks, and some don't.

I don't know how they decide to anneal, but most of the "premium" brands of ammo I've seen have annealed shoulders and necks.

When I did a tour of a company in Brazil, which was reloading cartridges for the South American militaries, they fully annealed the cases to dead soft, after inspection and cleaning, then inspected them again, and reheated the shoulder/neck portions of the cases before dropping them into water. They did this because dead soft shoulders and necks lead to issues while mass reloading on their machines, and neck tensions were heavier and more uniform, for use in full auto firearms. There were other reasons for it as well.

You don't say what firearm you're using your cases in. It's likely unnecessary to anneal before the first loading, but if you're "careful with temperatures," it won't hurt anything, and most importantly, it may give you more confidence with your end product.

A few people swear by it, some swear at it. Your choice.
 
Where’s your proof of that 😜🤷‍♂️
I asked my father (who was the Shooting Sports Development manager for a major ammo manufacturer ) that about 35 years ago, when the fella who owned a local gunshop and I were talking about it .
We noticed that many of the European cases he sold were annealed but the NA brass like Winchester Remington, etc. Were bright with no annealing discoloration .
My father told me that annealing was done at least 5 times while forming brass, but most companies polished off the final annealing discoloration to make the brass more appealing .
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Cases are annealled several times during the manufacturing process due to work hardening during each part of the drawing process. The work hardening becomes desirable at a certain point because you want a harder casehead to withstand the pressure. Selective annealling of the neck, shoulder and whatever portion of the body they determine to be correct for the cartridge is last, sometimes they polish it off and sometimes they don’t.
The US military did a test years ago where they proved to their satisfaction the leaving the discolouration on the case improved its resistance to corrosion in hostile enviroments, but that doesn’t make much difference to most handloaders.
The only reason to anneal new cases is if you think you’re better at it than the factory, and you’re probably not😀
 
You can anneal cases as many times as you want with no harm. The advantage is consistent neck tensions. Go ahead with confidence you are making more consistent ammo. Cheers
 
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