Annealing,..........

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A couple of questions........Assume that cases are tumbled and clean.
Also assume that the annealing process has been done correctly.
This is for 223Rem and 22-250 cases.

1. Do you anneal before or after neck sizing and primer removal?
2. IF you anneal after sizing and primer removal. Do you need to resize the neck?

To answer the second question, one could measure the outside diameter of the neck. However, not all cases have the same neck wall thickness. That destroys any validity of measurements. Measuring the inside neck diameter is something that I don't believe will be valid with the caliper (Cambodian Tire digital) which I have is accurate enough.

Thanks
 
The purpose of annealing is to soften work hardened necks and shoulders to make resizing easier. If you resize first, you might get a few cracked necks.
You don't need to anneal as part of the regular reloading process. It's only done if you get cracked cases. One cracked case, pitch it and anneal the rest.
No measuring is required. Heating to red hot isn't required either.
 
sunray said:
The purpose of annealing is to soften work hardened necks and shoulders to make resizing easier. If you resize first, you might get a few cracked necks. understood

You don't need to anneal as part of the regular reloading process. It's only done if you get cracked cases. One cracked case, pitch it and anneal the rest. as I have always done

No measuring is required. Heating to red hot isn't required either.
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Correct on the red hot portion
 
However, from a practical point of view, it is better to deprime the cases before annealing, so that the water will drain from the cases and the cases will dry out easier. If you are going to anneal, I don't think that it will make much difference if you resize them one more time. After annealing you might have to run them over your resizing or expanding ball to make sure that there are no dents (caused by bumping the dead soft annealed case mouths.)
 
Al-Sway said:
However, from a practical point of view, it is better to deprime the cases before annealing, so that the water will drain from the cases and the cases will dry out easier. If you are going to anneal, I don't think that it will make much difference if you resize them one more time. After annealing you might have to run them over your resizing or expanding ball to make sure that there are no dents (caused by bumping the dead soft annealed case mouths.)
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I deprime so that an air compressor can be used to dry the cases.
Good point on the dents. A visual inspection would solve that problem.
 
Since we are on the annealing subject:redface:. I have never annealed any cases. There are a bunch of techniques, the water tray with the propane torch, the drill with a shell holder add infinitum. What are you guys doing? I have heard there is some sort of automated machine as well??
 
Automated machines would be too easy!!!

Propane torch and water for me. I arrange my work space so that I can get all around the case. Using the wife's whirley thingme from the kitchen table makes it easy. Naturally I anneal only when she isn't home. Heaven help me if I burn it!!!!!
 
I do anneal my cases before i resize them, i use a shell holder with a drill and a propane torch.To reach the correct temperature without overheathing, i first use a thermomelt heat stick that i bought in a welding store.I use the 600 degree one, and when the 600 degree mark is reach i continue another 2 rotations.that is it, no messy water, my cases dont over heat.
 
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