Another AR Magazine Ruling...

cdngunman said:
I have heard the Questar started all these issues so that he can sell more Black Dog mags. Seems to have some friends at the RCMP Lab. Think about the LR10 mags.
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By the way - the RCMP are in your walls watching you -

Add another layer to your tin foil hat and they will go away - ;)
 
Thanks for the heads up Questar.

On that note....join the NFA and the CSSA. We need our orgs strong if we're ever going to win this fight.
 
cdngunman said:
I have heard the Questar started all these issues so that he can sell more Black Dog mags. Seems to have some friends at the RCMP Lab. Think about the LR10 mags.
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The sword called the RCMP Firearms Section does cut both ways. Any battles must be chosen carefully to ensure no unintended effects.
 
cdngunman said:
I have heard the Questar started all these issues so that he can sell more Black Dog mags. Seems to have some friends at the RCMP Lab. Think about the LR10 mags.
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The thought "so he can sell more Black dog mags" is ridiculous! You obviously know nothing about running a business. If you think hes increasing his profits on selling extra black dog mags.... you my friend should seek help.

I for one have spent many thousands of dollars with them, and feel they are one of the most stand up reputable dealers out there!
 
I don't know anything about Chiappa firearms, but isn't this only an issue if it's a handgun "commonly available" in Canada? Could the importer just bring in the rifle version only?

I can't see there being a big market for .22LR AR pistols anyway.
 
fuzzynuts54 said:
Sorry, not sending any money to any organization. Another ban goes through and we were not even enformed of the proposal. Either these organizations don't have the capability of getting this information or they chose to keep it quiet that they failed, hoping it would go un-noticed. I mean a firearms dealer tells us before the big organizations?!?!?someones sleeping at the wheel here.....

There must be some sort of a vote, a bunch of people in a room who make these decisions for us. Should there have been someone representing the firearms community in these meetings? Were they on holidays that day? Hung over? Drawing boobs and #####es?
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And here you have another clear example of why Canadian gun owners continue to be their own worst enemies. "Roll back the clock to 1960 so I can own full auto machineguns and hunt with my .44 Magnum S&W Model 29....and then I might send NFA or CSSA a cheque for $30.00!" How many times do I have to hear/read this sort of complaint?

If you want bad gun laws repealed, we all need to support our gun orgs and vote with both our cheque books and ballots. American gun owners do this and very rarely in modern times have they seen their gun rights walked on.

Here in Canada, until someone is directly affected on a personal level, apathy and disinterest is the norm, followed by outrage and disbelief that despite the fact that said individual has never joined a pro-firearms gun org, never donated a single dollar to such an org and has voted Liberal for the past 30 years - despite being a gun owner and hunter - somehow it is the gun orgs 'fault?'

Grow-up and take a reality pill.

The firearm(s) in question are brand new. With both pistol and rifle versions on the market using a 'dual' purpose magazine, the restriction is essentially automatic given the way our firerarms laws are written.

There is no magic solution, other than completely replacing current firearms law (including C-17, C-68, etc...) with new or amended legislation. If you want that to become a reality, we need a pro-firearm majority government in Ottawa and well-funded pro-firearms gun orgs to successfully lobby said government.

If you're looking for someone to blame because the OEM Chiappa magazine will be limited, blame the knee-jerk reactions of Kim Campbell as then Justice Minister, followed by the anti-gun agenda of Allan Rock and the Chretien Liberals and equally culpable, the disinterest of the majority of Canadian gun owners.

NFA was front and center in Ottawa during the debate over C-17, C-68, etc...and then president, David Tomlinson appeared before numerous parliamentary committees, etc... along with a number of other pro-firearms groups and orgs. Aside from the dedicated few, comparatively speaking, that showed up for the Fed-Up rallies in the 90s, most gun owners are content to sit on their hands while the same few do all the heavy lifting. While there were more losses, than wins, there have been successes; many of which shouldn't have happened given the limited resources orgs like NFA and CSSA have to work with. Remember the AR-15, it is thanks to groups such as NFA, DCRA, etc...that it is 'only' a restricted firearm right now, instead of prohibited like its other counterparts of the day. Had that happened, we wouldn't be having this conversation, as rifles such as the S&W MP-15, Chiappa, etc...would've been banned from import as prohibited firearms (AR-15 variants).

As for your comments, you don't have the excuse of ignorance, as you've at least taken some time to begin to educate yourself on current gun issues. This makes your attitude toward supporting gun orgs even more mind-boggling. These days, you are either part of the solution or part of the problem. Everyone here on CGN need to ask themselves into which category do I fall? You want change? Become part of the solution!
 
I remember being at the Fed Up Rallies, with our own Police Snipers having their firearms pointed at us (sounds a lot like some of the sheite going on overseas right now no?). I did not like that one bit. I remember thinking that "WE" were doing some good, that we made the efforts to try and affect change (or prevent the catastrophe we have now). When I realized how little of us that were there (in the grand scheme of things), I then felt sad; Sad that all the gun owners who complained and said they would do something never did.

I take comfort in the knowledge now that regardless of what they did with all the Prohib hand guns and such, that there are FAR MORE firearms in Canada now then there was then, and FAR MORE firearms owners. If ever the firearms community could effect change, it is now. Support the Organizations and Support all Pro Firearm Politicians regardless of Party, even though we know where most of them are, but not all. Bill C-68 may have been "Business", but this time its personal.
 
benmacksh said:
As an LEO I would have NO problem having a firearm pointed at me.
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Somehow, I do not believe most, if not all, of the other LEO's that are members of CGN and the greater shooting community would agree with you on this statement.

That all said.... For everybody..... Let's keep this thread on topic & before this thread goes further sideways, remember to post within the CGN general rules & guidelines for posting.

Thank you.

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Anyways, back on topic...

It seems that the RCMP are just messing with firearms owners...the rifle probably was designed or produced before the pistol version and therefore the magazine is a rimfire rifle magazine and not subject to size restrictions.
 
shootemup said:
Anyways, back on topic...

It seems that the RCMP are just messing with firearms owners...the rifle probably was designed or produced before the pistol version and therefore the magazine is a rimfire rifle magazine and not subject to size restrictions.
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Yes, I thought as well that all rimfire magazines were exempt from capacity restrictions.

No doubt they (for conspiracy theorists, the RCMP/government) will fund/find a future rimfire pistol project that uses Ruger 10/22 magazines so that they can get all these large capacity rimfire mags banned as well!:(:mad:
 
Ruger makes a 10/22 based pistol that uses standard 10/22 magazines.
Not an issue with Ruger magazines, they hold 10 rounds maximum, so are fine for a rifle or a pistol.
However, if an aftermarket magazine manufacturer were to advertise a larger capacity magazine for the Ruger Charger handgun, things could get interesting.
As far as I know, the large magazines are advertised and marketed for the 10/22 rifle. Probably a good thing.
 
tiriaq said:
Ruger makes a 10/22 based pistol that uses standard 10/22 magazines.
Not an issue with Ruger magazines, they hold 10 rounds maximum, so are fine for a rifle or a pistol.
However, if an aftermarket magazine manufacturer were to advertise a larger capacity magazine for the Ruger Charger handgun, things could get interesting.
As far as I know, the large magazines are advertised and marketed for the 10/22 rifle. Probably a good thing.
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Now that is interesting! In the interests of justice (not to mention to save us and themselves future massive confiscation headaches), it should be regulated that these restrictions cannot be retroactive. Otherwise they will just be manufacturing/creating even more criminals.

I suppose we do not have enough real ones here in this country already.
 
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