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I saw a G22 for sale... to my understanding the few people that got them were not supposed to sell them until it was finally decided for good if they were prohibs or not (next december if I remember correctly).

Now if it was RED STAR selling it I wouldn't ask, but the seller in this case seems to be ok. How can that be possible/legal? Is the amnisty in the long gun registry changing something?:confused:

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I do not have an answer. But from what I've heard about Redstar on other threads, I would question his knowledge on the subject. Just my $.02
 
The FaRT discs are worthless on this topic. The ones in circulation outside the CFC predate the CFC's determination that the G22's stock is a prohibited device. The most recent attempt to transfer one of these rifles has been described on CGN by Jeremy. He reports that the transfer attempt has been frozen. To date, there has been no report that G22s are being confiscated from their registered owners; perhaps the situation is in a state of limbo until the challenge to the CFC's interpretation is resolved. If Jeremy's attempt to acquire one of these rifles is successful, he will certainly report it.
 
Red Star said:
I would just look it up Rubikahn. Got an FRT disk?

--You seem to want to create divisions within the ranks, why not strengthen our might and work co-operatively.
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Blah blah blah. Pinko commie.
 
Rubikahn said:
I do not have an answer. But from what I've heard about Redstar on other threads, I would question his knowledge on the subject. Just my $.02
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Yeah, that's why I wrote "Now if it was RED STAR selling it I wouldn't ask, but the seller in this case seems to be ok."

I wouldn't ask because
1-He doesn't have one
2-Everything he says is bullsh@t
3-I wake up during the night to hate him :D Almost.
 
Vitriol;

I can't give you a legal answer, because I don't know (and at this point I really don't care for the G22).

But here's my take on things.

The item in question is registered. The CFC is still in operation. If you choose to buy it, it has to go through the CFC. If the CFC approves the transfer, then it must be legal. They authorized the transfer (they know who the buyer, the seller and what the item is). If it comes down to the police knocking on your door. You have a TAN # or file # stating that the transfer was authorized.

As to Red Star. The ignore button is there for a reason. Don't get yourself banned from here or get a time out for personal attacks.
 
If you are serious about wanting to buy it, why not give it a go? Talk it over with the seller, see if he will agree to payment being conditional on successful transfer. If the transfer gets frozen, cancel it. If it goes through, let us know. Don't see how either the seller or yourself could lose.
 
tiriaq said:
Don't see how either the seller or yourself could lose.
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If they become prohibited in december and get confiscated :eek: Maybe that's why the guy is selling it?



trubluscrew, thanks for the advice concerning red star, but if I "ignore" him his post will not show, making the threads uncomprehensible. Like when a post is deleted by a mod.
 
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Yes, there is always that risk. The current dispute though is about the status of the stock, not the rifle. In all likelihood, the transfer would be frozen, as happened to Jeremy. If it went ahead, it would be for a non-restricted rifle. If the transfer cleared, the rifle could be subsequently reclassified as prohibited, but it would take an OIC to do it.
If you use the "ignore" function, the ignored member's post does not appear; there is only a note that the ignore function is operating. If the ignored poster had nothing to contribute, the flow of the thread is unaffected. Try it; if you don't like it, you can undo it.
 
vitriol said:
I saw a G22 for sale... to my understanding the few people that got them were not supposed to sell them until it was finally decided for good if they were prohibs or not (next december if I remember correctly).
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I'm sure it's probably been answered in this thread, but I'm too lazy to read the whole thing:

1. The rifle is non-restricted. You can go hunting with it, do all the fun stuff you want.
2. It can NOT be transfered because of the pending court case.
3. The rear portion of the plastic stock was incorrectly deemed "a prohibited device", and until it goes to court, who knows.
4. So, after the court case goes through, and if nothing changes, you can turn in the stock for destruction and then transfer the receiver to someone else.

I tried to sell my G22 to Jeremy, and the transfer would not go through. It took two weeks and talking to about 20 people for someone to finally say why I couldn't transfer the RECEIVER minus the stock, it's the pending court case.

Hope that all makes sense (or non-sense?).

-Jamie M.
 
No probs. I'll be shooting some new videos of my 12.5" Dlask barreled 870 and the G22 in its mightly glory on Sunday. I should have em posted by Monday.

-Jamie M.
 
If Jeremy's attempt to acquire one of these rifles is successful, he will certainly report it.
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Up better believe it!! :D If all goes well and the courts decide that the G22 is transferable, I will be sure to bug sxyglock17 to buy his. I still have the cash set aside for it just if in case. Hear that Jamie M??? Your gun shall be mine if all goes well :p
 
tiriaq said:
I suppose one of these rifles could be loaned.....rented.....leased.....
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I asked that, and they said that I would have to "lend" it without the stock, I could only lend the receiver, which is pretty stupid. I've had people at the CFC say I couldn't lend it because it was prohib and the person I was trying to lend it to didn't have Prohib status, and I said "Which 12.x do they need for the G22? And how come I don't have a 12.x for it if I purchased it and then it went prohib?"... of course they had no answers so I corrected them that the stock is prohib, receiver is non-restricted, etc.

The RCMP firearms tech said I BETTER NOT lend it, because if confiscation happens in court, and the person I lent it to did not give it back, I'd be in hot water.

So, Jeremy is 1st in line for my G22 if everything goes good in court ;)

-Jamie M.
 
The big question is, whick folk does it come down to? I mean, the minions at the CFC just seem to make up stuff as you ask, but the RCMP Firearms Technicians seem to be the best people to legally answer your questions. I guess until a Judge says so, then we dunno who's talking out their @$$.

-Jamie M.
 
It would be useful to see an organizational chart for the Firearms Program, with the individuals who have decision making powers clearly identified, along with the statutory basis for the authority.
 
Unfortunately it's a government organization and no one wants to stick their head out and make a decision. So the standard "O" shape is the organizational chart.
 
Red Star said:
Just checked over in Vancouver.. They are non-restricted until the RCMP revisits the ruling made on them. The class never changed, and at present they are supposedly transferrable according to the CFC.
Next december they might go prohib? who knows@@!
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Have anything in writing?

How about a picture of you with your G22 since you own one and know everything about their legality.:rolleyes:
 
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