Anschutz 1727

Winz said:
Ok. That's fair in that a cantilever style mount could be used. Albeit eye relief adjustability and ability to single shot load might be limited after. That of course may not be a huge priority as it would be in actual biathlon.
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Actual biathlon uses aperture sights, no scopes. Since the 1827 is designed for biathlon there usually is no need for scopes. Nevertheless, mounting a scope can be done with cantilever rings.

And for readers in general, there is no problem with regard to eye relief adjustability and loading single shot when using cantilever rings. Each of the rifles shown below are single shot models.



A closer view below.




 
grauhanen said:
Winz said:
Ok. That's fair in that a cantilever style mount could be used. Albeit eye relief adjustability and ability to single shot load might be limited after. That of course may not be a huge priority as it would be in actual biathlon.
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Actual biathlon uses aperture sights, no scopes. Since the 1827 is designed for biathlon there usually is no need for scopes. Nevertheless, mounting a scope can be done with cantilever rings.

And for readers in general, there is no problem with regard to eye relief adjustability and loading single shot when using cantilever rings. Each of the rifles shown below are single shot models.
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I'm not sure if I should answer with "duh" or something other in regards to biathlon... but whatever

Nevertheless, noted that you can still single shot load with cantilever rings.
 
Winz said:
Winz said:
Ok. That's fair in that a cantilever style mount could be used. Albeit eye relief adjustability and ability to single shot load might be limited after. That of course may not be a huge priority as it would be in actual biathlon.
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grauhanen said:
Actual biathlon uses aperture sights, no scopes. Since the 1827 is designed for biathlon there usually is no need for scopes. Nevertheless, mounting a scope can be done with cantilever rings.
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I'm not sure if I should answer with "duh" or something other in regards to biathlon... but whatever
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"Duh"? -- as in it's too obvious that scopes aren't used in biathlon? I suspected that you knew that, but that doesn't seem to be what you wrote earlier.

When you suggested that eye relief and ability to load singly might be affected because of the huge priority it would be actual biathlon, you were referring to the use of a scope. Since optics aren't used in biathlon and rifles are repeaters, scope eye relief and single loading obviously wouldn't be a priority in biathlon.
 
grauhanen said:
and single loading obviously wouldn't be a priority in biathlon.
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A little off topic... but...
- Single loading IS important in biathlon

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sillymike said:
A little off topic... but...
- Single loading IS important in biathlon

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I stand corrected.

In biathlon relay competition only, single loading up to three extra rounds may be used to make up for missed targets. Each remaining missed target results in a penalty loop. Competitors who aren't in relay have five shots for each shooting round.

Since only aperture sights are used in biathlon, single loading is not an issue with any biathlon rifle.
 
grauhanen said:
"Duh"? -- as in it's too obvious that scopes aren't used in biathlon? I suspected that you knew that, but that doesn't seem to be what you wrote earlier.

When you suggested that eye relief and ability to load singly might be affected because of the huge priority it would be actual biathlon, you were referring to the use of a scope. Since optics aren't used in biathlon and rifles are repeaters, scope eye relief and single loading obviously wouldn't be a priority in biathlon.
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grauhanen said:
sillymike said:
A little off topic... but...
- Single loading IS important in biathlon

an1827f0.jpg
Click to expand...

I stand corrected.

In biathlon relay competition only, single loading up to three extra rounds may be used to make up for missed targets. Each remaining missed target results in a penalty loop. Competitors who aren't in relay have five shots for each shooting round.

Since only aperture sights are used in biathlon, single loading is not an issue with any biathlon rifle.
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In any case, I guess my vague use of syntax has led to confusion. My point was that any form of scope mount (cantilever or not) may impede on the port opening space to effectively single load. In biathlon, under pressure, heart-rate high and wearing gloves, this isn't the easiest task. Spares are also used whenever there is an issue with any of the 5 x rounds from the magazine (eg. damaged, accidently ejected, etc...)

Conversely, if one was taking a 1827F and scoping it as a sporting rifle (ie not for biathlon), this would likely hinder the ability to single load quickly but it probably doesn't matter and not a priority (unlike in biathlon).

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For all others, I've had several different styles of stocks for my 1827F but currently in the LNR&D VBS. As it is a V-block aluminium rail system, it omits the need of Anschütz recoil lug entirely. I suspect that it would be an easily viable option for the 1727. It isn't the stock for everyone though. However, it and other 'modern' chassis style designs are gaining more popularity at various levels from club, to IBU Cup and IBU World Cup.
 
Well just got news that an action is heading over to the guy that is going to look at how much work, if possible, fitment will be required to make it fit into an alum 1913 inlet stock.

I'll keep the crew posted with any news.

On another note, has anyone ordered direct from Anschutz North America? Was there problems getting the rifle, or do they still sent it through a Canadian dealer? Or is it a Prophet River broker type dealing? Just want to keep my backdoor open if they deem the work to be to difficult/excessive to make happen.
 
I bought both my Anschutz rifles from Prophet River but have also dealt with Brad at Nordic.
My 1712 was swapped in to a Classic stock at Nordic as there was no need for a Silhouette style stock . . . love the classic look.
 
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