Anschutz 1761, what calibre and stock ?
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yeah that is what I heard too. Anschutz mag release is horrible.
I just came back from the range this afternoon, with Vudoo v22 barrel three-360 action, KRG Bravo chassis, Nightforce NX8 4-32X50 scope.
At 50 yard, with both SK rifle match and stand plus, I hit the same hole everytime, literally same hole. This is getting pretty boring now.
Agreed! Anschutz owners complained for years about the difficulty in removing and inserting mags and the poor release lever design on the 64 and 54 actions. Anschutz tried to address this with the improved design of the 1761 release lever and magazines insert and drop free readily in this action. Personally, I use my 1761 and a 1808 off hand with no issues. The 1808 is a purpose built Running Boar rifle and the two are similiar in many respects.
Don't sell that 360 in a hurry because the 1761 won't put bullets in the same hole every time. Good lots of ammo and ideal conditions improve the odds but I'm yet to own a 22LR that could come close to that type of accuracy consistently.
My friend, you are suffering the gun equivalent of 'world-weariness'.
Enough with all this modern stuff! Get yourself a nice pre-war Mauser ES or MS350B - stick a x4 scope on it - preferably an El Paso-made Weaver that looks the part - and do some real shooting that requires more than cranking up that high-priced scope to maximum and putting another concrete block on the shooting bench to steady the earth tremors.
Or even a Winchester Model 52D and a Unertl scope, since money seems not to be a problem.
You already have the best ever made from today - time to try the best ever made from yesterday.
Enough with all this modern stuff! Get yourself a nice pre-war Mauser ES or MS350B - stick a x4 scope on it - preferably an El Paso-made Weaver that looks the part - and do some real shooting that requires more than cranking up that high-priced scope to maximum and putting another concrete block on the shooting bench to steady the earth tremors.
Or even a Winchester Model 52D and a Unertl scope, since money seems not to be a problem.
You already have the best ever made from today - time to try the best ever made from yesterday.
Mystic Precision
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Have you shot the 22LR to 400m? With the right setup and barrel (can be factory... sometimes), this will be the most accurate combo vs any other larger rimfire.
for me now, anything inside 200m is boring with the 22lr
Jerry
I think you are right . My wife defines this kind of behaviour as gun GAS, gear acquisition syndrome.
I spent lots of time researching all type of equipments, such as rifles, pistols, scopes, etc. and ended up buying one of best in the class. Couple of months later I got bored and started to think buy another style.
Now the more I talk to you guys, the less I think I should buy another 22lr
I spent lots of time researching all type of equipments, such as rifles, pistols, scopes, etc. and ended up buying one of best in the class. Couple of months later I got bored and started to think buy another style.
Now the more I talk to you guys, the less I think I should buy another 22lr
While I guess I understand the appeal of stretching a 22LR out to ridiculous distances on paper, I'm left with the impression that it's the "best of the worst" groups you're racing towards. Best/worst being subjective, recognizing that it takes incredible skill/gear to pull off the "best" using 22LR at long range. With a 204 Ruger in hand-200 yards is honestly my comfort zone on small targets when varmint hunting...and most would agree 204 is a little more predictable @ 200.
Re: the OP's comment above^-I've been a bolt gun/bench shooter for longer than I remember, but casual/non-competitive...using field-grade guns mostly, and very pleased with the results. Mostly. (CZ/Tikka/Anschutz) In an effort to keep things interesting, I picked-up a semi last winter and decided to work on my skills vs. simply adding another bolt gun..just to shoot it in the same way @ the same distances. Well, yesterday was the first real day devoted to that and it was a blast. Decent .22, decent red dot, and allot of ammo=the brass was flying. lol
I still get really revved-up at the prospect of getting a "super" grade 22 bolt gun (Rim-X is right up there) or possibly an Anschutz Fortner, but am trying to listen to the voice of experience too. Namely, that it's experiences I tend to remember more than the gun I have with me. Probably why I find gopher shooting to be THE most fun you can have with a .22. One target might be 20' away, the next 25 yards, the next 75, target options as far away as you can see sometimes. Add wind, a gopher's restless nature, their #s on a good year=it can be very interesting. On my spring trip this year, #s were huge. You start off so rusty that you're missing relatively close ones for no good reason. By the end of the week, you're taking pokes at running ones inside of 50 yards...and either connecting, or giving them a dust bath you're so close. For me, it's the ultimate challenge. Varying distances, varying sizes, moving/not moving, learning to recognize when one is about to move behind another so you might bet a 2-for-1 special, etc.
With the OP's conundrum, I'd say push the targets further out...make them smaller (or both) and keep the challenge there. Clearly, top-shelf gear/ammo+the OP's abilities=challenge has come and gone.
Ok, your writing just saved me a few thousand bucks, if not more.
I decided to stick with my current Vudoo for now and having fun at 200 this weekend (that is the longest range I can find for now).
I decided to stick with my current Vudoo for now and having fun at 200 this weekend (that is the longest range I can find for now).
While I guess I understand the appeal of stretching a 22LR out to ridiculous distances on paper, I'm left with the impression that it's the "best of the worst" groups you're racing towards. Best/worst being subjective, recognizing that it takes incredible skill/gear to pull off the "best" using 22LR at long range. With a 204 Ruger in hand-200 yards is honestly my comfort zone on small targets when varmint hunting...and most would agree 204 is a little more predictable @ 200.
Re: the OP's comment above^-I've been a bolt gun/bench shooter for longer than I remember, but casual/non-competitive...using field-grade guns mostly, and very pleased with the results. Mostly. (CZ/Tikka/Anschutz) In an effort to keep things interesting, I picked-up a semi last winter and decided to work on my skills vs. simply adding another bolt gun..just to shoot it in the same way @ the same distances. Well, yesterday was the first real day devoted to that and it was a blast. Decent .22, decent red dot, and allot of ammo=the brass was flying. lol
I still get really revved-up at the prospect of getting a "super" grade 22 bolt gun (Rim-X is right up there) or possibly an Anschutz Fortner, but am trying to listen to the voice of experience too. Namely, that it's experiences I tend to remember more than the gun I have with me. Probably why I find gopher shooting to be THE most fun you can have with a .22. One target might be 20' away, the next 25 yards, the next 75, target options as far away as you can see sometimes. Add wind, a gopher's restless nature, their #s on a good year=it can be very interesting. On my spring trip this year, #s were huge. You start off so rusty that you're missing relatively close ones for no good reason. By the end of the week, you're taking pokes at running ones inside of 50 yards...and either connecting, or giving them a dust bath you're so close. For me, it's the ultimate challenge. Varying distances, varying sizes, moving/not moving, learning to recognize when one is about to move behind another so you might bet a 2-for-1 special, etc.
With the OP's conundrum, I'd say push the targets further out...make them smaller (or both) and keep the challenge there. Clearly, top-shelf gear/ammo+the OP's abilities=challenge has come and gone.
Happy to help, but don't let me be the guy who talked another guy out of getting a new gun! lol Kidding aside, Jerry @ Mystic would be a far better "brain to pick" on long range 22LR, I suspect guys like him have forgotten more than I'll ever know. My experience with long range is zeroing @ 50 yards, using a scope with a ballistic plex reticle, learning approx. what distance=what hash mark/holdover, and an absolute boat load of trigger time. Translation=trigger time+observation+luck.
Guys like Jerry (I suspect) use better scopes, use them properly, range finders, ballistic apps, kestrels, etc. lolHappy to help, but don't let me be the guy who talked another guy out of getting a new gun! lol Kidding aside, Jerry @ Mystic would be a far better "brain to pick" on long range 22LR, I suspect guys like him have forgotten more than I'll ever know. My experience with long range is zeroing @ 50 yards, using a scope with a ballistic plex reticle, learning approx. what distance=what hash mark/holdover, and an absolute boat load of trigger time. Translation=trigger time+observation+luck.
sounds like a good rangefinder should be in order then.
I have not used a rangefinder for years, and recently I am eyeing on a Leica Geovid Pro 10x32 binoculars RF. It looks nice but I am debating between Geovid Pro (about $3700) and CRF 2800 (about $1000), not sure if the premium is worth it or not. They both have ballistic apps, the Geovid can connect to kestrel (I believe).
Does a good rangefinder really help ballistic calculation?
^no idea. lol
A rangefinder is helpful, but I've only ever owned one...and it still works. (Simmons, -$100) For 22LR, I only use it to confirm my target is at the distance I want to shoot. Usually 50 yards.
Good luck Jqian!
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Mystic Precision
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Don't worry... you will now spend these thousands on top tier match ammo.
Which will be more rewarding as the very nice rifle you now have will shoot to its potential.
Jerry
^?? Am I missing something? Pretty sure about 98% of the guns discussed/shown in this forum have optics on them. I don't think it's a huge stretch to imagine rifles/scopes/range finders being used together. If people want to have the discussion, are you suggesting they have to ask the scope question in the OPTICS forum, and the (rimfire) rifle one here? Not enough rules in our lives as it is?
