Anschutz 190 sight question.

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I thought my eyes were causing the sight picture to be not fully round. But I noticed the adjustment screw is apparent in the sight picture. Is this normal for these type of sights?

Yes I know I dont have my iris in, but better shows the issue. Cuts off the top right hand corner of the sight picture.

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The original factory rear sight for the CIL Anschutz 190 is the 6705 rear aperture.

Yours may be missing a part. While I'm unsure what its correct term is, it may simply be called a disc.

Below is the 6705 sight with the red arrow identifying the part your sight may be missing.



While the original part may not be available any longer, it's possible that the disc shown below, available at Nordic, will work. See https://nordicmarksman.com/disc/

At the bottom of this post is an Anschutz illustration of the parts usually found on the aperture sights.



 
grauhanen said:
The original factory rear sight for the CIL Anschutz 190 is the 6705 rear aperture.

Yours may be missing a part. While I'm unsure what its correct term is, it may simply be called a disc.

Below is the 6705 sight with the red arrow identifying the part your sight may be missing.



While the original part may not be available any longer, it's possible that the disc shown below, available at Nordic, will work. See https://nordicmarksman.com/disc/

At the bottom of this post is an Anschutz illustration of the parts usually found on the aperture sights.



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Thanks Glenn for the model #. Yes I'm missing the disk (IRIS). I removed it to get a better photo of the issue as said in the original comment. Was easier than trying to get a photo thru a pin hole. The issue isn't what Iam is missing. The issue is you see that in your sight picture and doesn't matter if I use the stock Disk, or my Gehmann adjustable.

I'm trying to figure is this normal for this type of sight, or something is wrong.

Yes I know I dont have my iris in, but better shows the issue. Cuts off the top right hand corner of the sight picture.
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I don't know what distance your Anschütz is zeroed to but you are obviously at the end of your elevation adjustment. Get yourself a riser (around 8mm) for your rear sight and you will be able to get back in the middle of the adjustment range of the diopter.
 
250-25X said:
I don't know what distance your Anschütz is zeroed to but you are obviously at the end of your elevation adjustment. Get yourself a riser (around 8mm) for your rear sight and you will be able to get back in the middle of the adjustment range of the diopter.
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Thanks. It is zeroed at 100 yards. I appreciate the help.

But getting a higher front sight wont help ATM. Because when I lower the adjustment, say shooting 50 yards which is mid way. I still have the OP issue of the screw obstructing the sight picture. Is it normal, or something wrong with the sight.

Like is this a common issue with these exact 6705 Anschutz 190 sights?
 
Sorry, I'm not particularly familiar with these 6705. They were mostly used for Sporting class shooting at 20 and 50 yards. What I was suggesting, to reach 100 yards, was to use a riser under your rear sight only. You should leave your front tunnel at its current height.
Something like this should should work: https://nordicmarksman.com/sight-riser-set-6713-2/
 
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250-25X said:
Sorry, I'm not particularly familiar with these 6705. They were mostly used for Sporting class shooting at 20 and 50 yards. What I was suggesting, to reach 100 yards, was to use a riser under your rear sight only. You should leave your front tunnel at the same height.
Something like this should should work: https://nordicmarksman.com/sight-riser-set-6713-2/
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Thanks. I can reach and shoot 100 yards with the current setup. But noticed this issue when I switched to a adjustable iris and opened it up bigger than the stock 1.1 disk. Went from blurry to has to be my eyes and just dealt with it. To nope something definitely is obstructing my sight picture.

If it's a issue, then I'll just upgrade to what the Anschutz 54 runs. As it doesnt have this issue, confirmed by another shooter or new Gehmann 590.
 
250-25X said:
In my opinion, you should never open to more than 1,3mm to get useable contrasts...
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Everybody eyes are different. It is what focused the best for me.

But the question still hasn't been answered. All these I should do this and that, doesn't matter. When I'm not getting a non obstructed view. Thanks for the advice, I'l consider it down the road. But I want to fix the main issue,
The damn screw in my view. Not I need risers, not what I should set my iris too, not Im missing the disk.


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Has the rear aperture sight worked as desired at 50 yards (or less)? If it has, the riser suggested by 250-25X will allow the same aperture sights to more comfortably adjust for shooting at 100. The higher the rear sight is above the receiver, the farther the rifle can be sighted. The riser is analogous to a canted rail that allows a scope to be used at long distances.
 
OkayShooter said:
The damn screw in my view. Not I need risers, not what I should set my iris too, not Im missing the disk.
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Can you find an exploded view and/or assembly instructions for the sight, just to make sure it is assembled correctly? If it is, can you get a normal sight picture with a 25yd zero? 50yd zero?

If everything is correct then you might be stuffed trying to use it with a 100yd zero since it was never designed for that, but I suspect something is off. Mine has piles of clearance compared to yours with a 25yd zero and it hardly needs to come up at all to get a 50yd zero, so I suspect I could do 100yds as well.

If you look at where your sight internals are sitting compared to mine it is way higher. I can't imagine I'd need to go that high to get a 100 yd zero, so that's worth a look.


Mark
 
grauhanen said:
Has the rear aperture sight worked as desired at 50 yards (or less)? If it has, the riser suggested by 250-25X will allow the same aperture sights to more comfortably adjust for shooting at 100. The higher the rear sight is above the receiver, the farther the rifle can be sighted. The riser is analogous to a canted rail that allows a scope to be used at long distances.
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Yes. I never had issue with shooting down to 20 yards to 100 yards with this setup, for the last 2 years or so that I've been running these 190 sights on my 1403. I won't be answering anymore questions that isn't related to the sight picture issue.

The question once more... is it normal for the Anschutz 6705 sight found on the CIL 190s to have the screw in your sight picture?
 
mmattockx said:
Can you find an exploded view and/or assembly instructions for the sight, just to make sure it is assembled correctly? If it is, can you get a normal sight picture with a 25yd zero? 50yd zero?

If everything is correct then you might be stuffed trying to use it with a 100yd zero since it was never designed for that, but I suspect something is off. Mine has piles of clearance compared to yours with a 25yd zero and it hardly needs to come up at all to get a 50yd zero, so I suspect I could do 100yds as well.


Mark
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Only issue is the screw obstructing the sight picture. Thought it was my eyes and just dealt with it. Was blurry with the 1.1 disk in. Once I put an adjustable Isis disk and opened it up to it to focus, it made the screw noticeable.

That is the problem.
 
OkayShooter said:
Thanks. Your screw must be higher than the dovetail block. Even the sight setting down to 20 yards, its obstructed. So its a sight issue.
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I don't own that particular sight (though I do have a 190), but on some of my adjustable peeps there is, for lack of a better word, a spacer that keeps the threaded portion from moving down to far. If you can find an exploded view of the sight that might tell you if you're missing one. - dan
 
dan belisle said:
I don't own that particular sight (though I do have a 190), but on some of my adjustable peeps there is, for lack of a better word, a spacer that keeps the threaded portion from moving down to far. If you can find an exploded view of the sight that might tell you if you're missing one. - dan
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Thanks, it does have the little spacer. Im in the process of making a thicker one.

WTF M2.6 screw. Must be a typo.
 
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