Ansley h. Fox
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Cabelas has it listed for $1,700US? But i guess it is worth as much as someone will pay for it.
http://www.cabelas.com/gun-inventory---rogers---american-sg---1034789-fox-rog.shtml
Nice Gun. Is this the only thing you have for duck huntn?
IMHO you need a minimum 3" shell with the new steel shot.
http://www.cabelas.com/gun-inventory---rogers---american-sg---1034789-fox-rog.shtml
Nice Gun. Is this the only thing you have for duck huntn?
IMHO you need a minimum 3" shell with the new steel shot.
thanks - you are talking to a real rookie here.
Why not shoot steel? hard on the barrel?
It is my only shotgun, and was hoping to do some duck/goose hunting this fall... maybe I should put it on the wall and shop for a cheaper one?
I just found other markings, tought to get pics, but it says:
PAT'D DEC 2, 1902
AUG 1, 1904 TO AUG 1, 1905
OCT 17, 1905 TO JAN 16, 1906
15809 A
Why not shoot steel? hard on the barrel?
It is my only shotgun, and was hoping to do some duck/goose hunting this fall... maybe I should put it on the wall and shop for a cheaper one?
I just found other markings, tought to get pics, but it says:
PAT'D DEC 2, 1902
AUG 1, 1904 TO AUG 1, 1905
OCT 17, 1905 TO JAN 16, 1906
15809 A
Steel is hard on the barrel. Also, is the gun fixed chokes? From what I believe, steel can only be shot through modified chokes. It'll tear the fixed choke apart. The gun can still be used for hunting, just as long as you aren't hunting over open water. Geese over a farmer's field would be fine, and any other place where lead shot can be used.
EDIT:
Modified chokes or greater.
EDIT:
Modified chokes or greater.
You cannot legally use lead shot for any waterfowl hunting whether over water or field, unfortunately....I'd only use the Fox for light loads and upland birds or rabbits...while not a Fox expert, I believe your gun to be a SP grade or possibly Sterlingworth, not the "A" grade as seen in the Cabelas add.
Derek
Congrats your gun is a 1910 AH Fox AE grade. The "A" at the end of the serial # is the grade and the "E" stands for ejectors which your gun has. The chambers will be 2 3/4" and the chokes will probably be full/full or full/mod. This is a high quality shotgun that will last another 99 years but must be treated gently.
#1 NO STEEL SHOT it will ruin the barrels. Lead only and stick to 1 1/4 oz loads and less.
#2 Do not put the gun on the wall. Go buy a cheap pump gun to shoot waterfowl and use the Fox for upland shooting. It was built to be used and you will appreciate the gun if you shoot it.
#3 Clean and oil the gun.
Here is a pic of my 1909 AE.
If you have any other questions PM me.
Regards
Congrats your gun is a 1910 AH Fox AE grade. The "A" at the end of the serial # is the grade and the "E" stands for ejectors which your gun has. The chambers will be 2 3/4" and the chokes will probably be full/full or full/mod. This is a high quality shotgun that will last another 99 years but must be treated gently.
#1 NO STEEL SHOT it will ruin the barrels. Lead only and stick to 1 1/4 oz loads and less.
#2 Do not put the gun on the wall. Go buy a cheap pump gun to shoot waterfowl and use the Fox for upland shooting. It was built to be used and you will appreciate the gun if you shoot it.
#3 Clean and oil the gun.
Here is a pic of my 1909 AE.
If you have any other questions PM me.
Regards
If you have a gunsmith check it you will probably find the chambers are 2 5/8ths in. This was the common chambering for the Fox until the 30's. I have one in this model and did shoot 2 3/4 in. shells before I had mine checked. Some authorities say that doing so does up the pressure and eventually the gun will loosen up. I got around this by loading my own shells using a standard 12 ga. loader but trimming the case. Shells in 2 1/2 in. are also available as factory loads specifically for the old classic doubles.
As Doubleman says this is a quality gun - some say one of the best ever made in the U.S. and begs to be used but not with steel shot.
As Doubleman says this is a quality gun - some say one of the best ever made in the U.S. and begs to be used but not with steel shot.
There are no commercially available non-tox loads in 2 1/2" to my knowledge - so, no migratory bird hunts with this gun unless you load your own. That could be tricky, too. Bismuth is no longer available in bulk, tungsten matrix never was, which leaves only "Nice Shot", which is only now becoming available.
If you're not a reloader, contact your nearest Kent Cartridge dealer and see if you can get your hands on some Gamebore Pure Gold in 2 1/2 ", 12 ga. (these are low pressure loads, designed for these classics, but only the 12 ga version are low pressure). With these, you've got yourself a fine upland bird gun.
If you're not a reloader, contact your nearest Kent Cartridge dealer and see if you can get your hands on some Gamebore Pure Gold in 2 1/2 ", 12 ga. (these are low pressure loads, designed for these classics, but only the 12 ga version are low pressure). With these, you've got yourself a fine upland bird gun.
Kent makes a 2-1/2" load in Tungsten Matrix. I've seen only one box in Ontario and that was a few years ago (I still have most of it.) A dealer could probably bring some in but it wouldn't be cheap.
https://www.ballisticproducts.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G1225NTF306
