Antique Handguns

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There are what looks to be some pistols worth having... the thought of taking an old handgun camping is a pretty cool idea. I wouldn;t be riding a horse but more so my 4 wheeler :) - lets see a horse go through muskeg :p

A western six shooter is probably the way to go, the colts are very nice but I don't really have $25,000 US to spend on one and turn it into a bush gun.

Which wheel guns are likely functional and a good option for legal plinking in the bush?

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None are legal for "plinking in the bush"...U may wanna rethink your plan as handguns are a no no for firing off site from certified ranges unless u are licensed to carry as a prospector, geologist etc or unless u live in the USA. If u reside in Canada u may wanna look at a pack rifle or shotgun, but I am sure the other experts will jump on this with full explanations.
Cheers
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i always thought legally they are treated as non-restricted firearms when it comes to discharge. However you will get the beat down just b/c they are handguns.

You gotta store then like your typical hand guns, and transport them as such too.
 
hmmmm are you sure? I am pretty sure antique handguns can be discharged legally where non-restricteds can...

I have been told this on more than one occasion, storage and transportation laws still must be followed.

maybe I am just itching for a beat down.

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hmmmm are you sure? I am pretty sure antique handguns can be discharged legally where non-restricteds can...

I have been told this on more than one occasion, storage and transportation laws still must be followed.

maybe I am just itching for a beat down.

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I treat the discharge of a antique hand gun as a non-resstricted. Of course if a LEO sees you they will think VERY funny things. Its such a grey matter...
technically its not illegal. Check the antique and black powder section under teh sticky "antique or probhib?"

Everyone on CGN seems to have a different opinion on the law -_-
 
There is no law that says that an antique handgun is to be treated like a regular handgun...in fact quite the opposite.

Section 84 of the Criminal Code specifically states that Antiques and anything prescribed to be an antique is specifically :
“antique firearm” means

( a) any firearm manufactured before 1898 that was not designed to discharge rim-fire or centre-fire ammunition and that has not been redesigned to discharge such ammunition, or

( b) any firearm that is prescribed to be an antique firearm;
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(3) For the purposes of sections 91 to 95, 99 to 101, 103 to 107 and 117.03 of this Act and the provisions of the Firearms Act, the following weapons are deemed not to be firearms:

(a) any antique firearm;

(b) any device that is

(i) designed exclusively for signalling, for notifying of distress, for firing blank cartridges or for firing stud cartridges, explosive-driven rivets or other industrial projectiles, and

(ii) intended by the person in possession of it to be used exclusively for the purpose for which it is designed;

(c) any shooting device that is

(i) designed exclusively for the slaughtering of domestic animals, the tranquillizing of animals or the discharging of projectiles with lines attached to them, and

(ii) intended by the person in possession of it to be used exclusively for the purpose for which it is designed; and

( d) any other barrelled weapon, where it is proved that the weapon is not designed or adapted to discharge

(i) a shot, bullet or other projectile at a muzzle velocity exceeding 152.4 m per second or at a muzzle energy exceeding 5.7 Joules, or

(ii) a shot, bullet or other projectile that is designed or adapted to attain a velocity exceeding 152.4 m per second or an energy exceeding 5.7 Joules.

Exception — antique firearms


(3.1) Notwithstanding subsection (3), an antique firearm is a firearm for the purposes of regulations made under paragraph 117(h) of the Firearms Act and subsection 86(2) of this Act.
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Firearms Act section 117(h)
117. The Governor in Council may make regulations:
(h) regulating the storage, handling, transportation, shipping, display, advertising and mail-order sale of firearms and restricted weapons and defining the expression “mail-order sale” for the purposes of this Act;
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So basically it comes down to whatever the Governer in Council states in accordance with the transportation, shipping, storage, discharge etc of Antiques.

I am sure there is someone on here that has any exact information as to the regulations handed down by the GiC as to their use.
 
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Plinking with antique

An antique handgun is quite legal to shoot wherever a non restricted is legal to shoot. But you are risking alot and you have too much to lose.

If you took your antique to the range not a problem, but be very careful in the bush. The problem is that the Fish and Game Act does not allow hunting with a handgun.

The definition of hunting can be (and will be) taken as being in the bush with a loaded firearm. Whether holstered or slung, a hand gun or long gun with ammo in the chamber or magazine is considered to be hunting.

Make absolutely sure that the pistol is an antique. Carry documentation that confirms this. Carry the appropriate section of the firearms act with you.

Be prepared to argue your case from the back seat of a cruiser.

Some things that are quite legal yet can still get you into trouble.

For example, walk down Yonge Street in TO in daylight hours with an uncased unloaded trigger locked rifle slung on your shoulder. Not illegal, but certainly not a smart thing to do.

I am not a lawyer, and free advice is worth only what you pay for it.
Get the regs and read them yourself, then you only have one person to blame if you screw up and fall foul of the law.

I like to carry my old Webley Bulldog in my pack when I am camping in bear country. More for something that will make a loud noise than to put a hole in anything. It is carried unloaded and locked in a case. The key is kept handy in my pocket, a spare in my wallet. Takes only a few seconds to retrieve it from the backpack.

But remember the risks are that;
Game Warden will bust you for hunting with a hand gun.
Police officer will bust you for having an unregistered/restricted/no ATT.
You will probably beat the charges, but will have to jump through the hoops.

Just be careful where you shoot it and who sees you.

I guess I am just trying to advise you to use discretion. Nobody needs to know, so stick to private property rather than the local gravel pit. People like to flap their mouths. Loose lips sink ships.
 
good advice - loose lips sink ships :)

I am seriously thinking of bringing several sections of the Firearms act everywhere I go with highlighted key points.

That being said, I don;t own an antique, so what colt style pre 1898, 6 shooters are affordable?

(Mods please move this to antiques forum)

The definition of hunting can be (and will be) taken as being in the bush with a loaded firearm. Whether holstered or slung, a hand gun or long gun with ammo in the chamber or magazine is considered to be hunting.
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I have no interest in hunting with a handgun, shooting cans and bumps on a log - different story, so if I had targets on me how would that play out? a step further targets with holes in them!!



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