Antique Regulation help
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Try this it is in the forum for blackpowder and antiques
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?217529-Link-to-CFC-Antique-regs
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?217529-Link-to-CFC-Antique-regs
Storage isn't regulated... That said, I think it's best to cover your own a$$.
This is from the RCMP web site.
Under the Firearms Act and corresponding regulations, antique firearms must be stored, displayed and transported unloaded.
If an individual is transporting antique firearms by vehicle and needs to leave them unattended*, they should be left in the vehicle’s locked trunk or similar compartment. If the vehicle does not have a trunk or compartment, the vehicle must be locked with the antique firearms inside and out of sight.
Antique handguns must be transported in a locked, non-transparent container that cannot readily be broken open or into or accidentally opened during transportation.
*Unattended means a vehicle that is not under the direct and immediate supervision of an adult (18 years of age or older) or a minor (with a minor’s licence issued under the Firearms Act).
Powderman why not do this and then you're perfectly fine - store them as you do your non restricted firearms.
Unload and lock your firearms!. Lock the firearms in a cabinet, container or room that is difficult to break into.
Under the Firearms Act and corresponding regulations, antique firearms must be stored, displayed and transported unloaded.
If an individual is transporting antique firearms by vehicle and needs to leave them unattended*, they should be left in the vehicle’s locked trunk or similar compartment. If the vehicle does not have a trunk or compartment, the vehicle must be locked with the antique firearms inside and out of sight.
Antique handguns must be transported in a locked, non-transparent container that cannot readily be broken open or into or accidentally opened during transportation.
*Unattended means a vehicle that is not under the direct and immediate supervision of an adult (18 years of age or older) or a minor (with a minor’s licence issued under the Firearms Act).
Powderman why not do this and then you're perfectly fine - store them as you do your non restricted firearms.
Unload and lock your firearms!. Lock the firearms in a cabinet, container or room that is difficult to break into.
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I have gone to the RCMP website and noticed the statement:
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/showdoc...chorbo-ga:s_14
ANTIQUE FIREARMS
14. (1) An individual may store, display or transport an antique firearm only if it is unloaded.
I am sure this statement applies to ALL firearms.
As you can see from the RCMP website there is no mention of locking antique firearms in a safe or container not easily broken into, use of trigger locks for antique handguns or longarms, and no mention of disabling an antique firearm when displayed.
However, from the Firearms Act:
Section 84. (3.1) Notwithstanding subsection (3), an antique firearm is a firearm for the purpose of regulations made under paragraph 117(h) of the Firearms Act and subsection 86. (2) of this act.
Section 86. (2) Every person commits an offence who contravenes a regulation made under paragraph 117(h) of the Firearms Act respecting the storage, handling, transportation, shipping, display, advertising, and mail-order sales of firearms and restricted weapons.
Am I wrong, or do antique longarms need to be stored and displayed as non restricted firearms do, and antique handguns need to be stored and displayed as restricted and prohibited weapons do?
Regards,
Powderman
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/showdoc...chorbo-ga:s_14
ANTIQUE FIREARMS
14. (1) An individual may store, display or transport an antique firearm only if it is unloaded.
I am sure this statement applies to ALL firearms.
As you can see from the RCMP website there is no mention of locking antique firearms in a safe or container not easily broken into, use of trigger locks for antique handguns or longarms, and no mention of disabling an antique firearm when displayed.
However, from the Firearms Act:
Section 84. (3.1) Notwithstanding subsection (3), an antique firearm is a firearm for the purpose of regulations made under paragraph 117(h) of the Firearms Act and subsection 86. (2) of this act.
Section 86. (2) Every person commits an offence who contravenes a regulation made under paragraph 117(h) of the Firearms Act respecting the storage, handling, transportation, shipping, display, advertising, and mail-order sales of firearms and restricted weapons.
Am I wrong, or do antique longarms need to be stored and displayed as non restricted firearms do, and antique handguns need to be stored and displayed as restricted and prohibited weapons do?
Regards,
Powderman
Link to Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations
SOR/98-209
FIREARMS ACT
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-209/FullText.html m
Here are the things I get out of 117 (h)
first: Under APPLICATIONS number 2. (5) is this--- (5) Sections 5 to 13 do not apply to antique firearms.
So scroll on down to number 5. starting at storage of non restricted firearms, and keep going down to 13. So if none of this applies then the only thing that does as far as STORAGE is: UNLOADED
Number 14. ANTIQUE FIREARMS
14. (1) An individual may store, display or transport an antique firearm only if it is unloaded.--- "NOTE UNLOADED" and then goes on to give the rules for transporting.
(2) An individual may transport an antique firearm in an unattended vehicle only if
(a) when the vehicle is equipped with a trunk or similar compartment that can be securely locked, the antique firearm is in that trunk or compartment and the trunk or compartment is securely locked; and
(b) when the vehicle is not equipped with a trunk or similar compartment that can be securely locked, the antique firearm is not visible from outside the vehicle and the vehicle, or the part that contains the antique firearm, is securely locked.
(3) An individual may transport an antique firearm that is a handgun only if it is in a locked container that is made of an opaque material and is of such strength, construction and nature that it cannot readily be broken open or into or accidentally opened during transportation.
Anyway as has been said so many times on here, why always push the rules with antique firearms. Stop listening to the retards that think they are Jesse James when they get an antique gun in their hand. When you are buying one do it right. Get RCMP verification on your antique handgun. Keep all antique proof with your handgun. When you are transporting follow the rules--- put a handgun in a locked case. If you intend on shooting your antique, do it very discreetly on property you have permission to be on-- away from the public eye. or at a Gun Range. When you are storing-- lock them up like your non restricted. Keep a low profile and enjoy your antiques. Cheers John
SOR/98-209
FIREARMS ACT
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-209/FullText.html m
Here are the things I get out of 117 (h)
first: Under APPLICATIONS number 2. (5) is this--- (5) Sections 5 to 13 do not apply to antique firearms.
So scroll on down to number 5. starting at storage of non restricted firearms, and keep going down to 13. So if none of this applies then the only thing that does as far as STORAGE is: UNLOADED
Number 14. ANTIQUE FIREARMS
14. (1) An individual may store, display or transport an antique firearm only if it is unloaded.--- "NOTE UNLOADED" and then goes on to give the rules for transporting.
(2) An individual may transport an antique firearm in an unattended vehicle only if
(a) when the vehicle is equipped with a trunk or similar compartment that can be securely locked, the antique firearm is in that trunk or compartment and the trunk or compartment is securely locked; and
(b) when the vehicle is not equipped with a trunk or similar compartment that can be securely locked, the antique firearm is not visible from outside the vehicle and the vehicle, or the part that contains the antique firearm, is securely locked.
(3) An individual may transport an antique firearm that is a handgun only if it is in a locked container that is made of an opaque material and is of such strength, construction and nature that it cannot readily be broken open or into or accidentally opened during transportation.
Anyway as has been said so many times on here, why always push the rules with antique firearms. Stop listening to the retards that think they are Jesse James when they get an antique gun in their hand. When you are buying one do it right. Get RCMP verification on your antique handgun. Keep all antique proof with your handgun. When you are transporting follow the rules--- put a handgun in a locked case. If you intend on shooting your antique, do it very discreetly on property you have permission to be on-- away from the public eye. or at a Gun Range. When you are storing-- lock them up like your non restricted. Keep a low profile and enjoy your antiques. Cheers John
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