Antique shipping from states
- Thread starter Rebelson
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Should be fine, it will likely be held at customs for a bit, they will verify it's antique status and it will proceed on it's way to you through Canada post.
burnt_servo
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- right in the middle of b.c.
make sure the sender CLEARLY labels it as a ANTIQUE ......... and makes no mention of the word "firearm" on the declaration label .
this is ones of the circumstances where a antique is a nonfirearm and should be treated as a nonfirearm .
also make sure they ship my usps . if it goes by ups or fedex , you may end up with more grief than you can imagine .
this is ones of the circumstances where a antique is a nonfirearm and should be treated as a nonfirearm .
also make sure they ship my usps . if it goes by ups or fedex , you may end up with more grief than you can imagine .
Just received a Remington 38 Rimfire with no issues. It was declared as antique firearm and seller put a photocopy from Fladermans guide inside as well good luck
A shipment of mine got held up, not for firearms reasons: the seller didn't put the price on the customs declaration. I went to CBSA offices to sort it, thinking that there was some question about antique status. I showed invoice, got them by mail two days after. Lesson: ask shipper to declare value, content and put your contact phone number in the customs docs envelope. PAL # might help also.
I bought a barrel for my mg 34 a few months back and it "mysteriously disappeared". I talked to US customs and Canada customs and both assured me that bringing a barrel across was no issue whatsoever. Canada customs released it to Canada post and that was it. Every time I call Canada post they say they never got it from our customs even though our customs say they did. Canada post says its "in transit" from Chicago. Lesson learnt, I wont buy firearms related stuff unless it comes from a dealer in the US who will ship here.
That barrel was expensive and its gone. I hope you have better luck getting your antique firearm!
That barrel was expensive and its gone. I hope you have better luck getting your antique firearm!
Things have changed recently regarding the export of antique firearms out of the US due to the Dept. of Homeland Security. You now take your chances if you don't use a licensed exporter to ship a antique firearm out of the US.
Dept. of Homeland Security and antique firearms
Mar 29th, 2015 at 2:13pm
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The insanity continues. I just received this message:
I just wanted to let you know, Homeland Security has changed the laws
with regard to shipping firearms (to include antiques) internationally.
From this point forward, any firearms purchases (modern or antique) made
through our company will need to be shipped to a licensed exporter
within the U.S. for transfer.
Does this just apply to a business?
Regards,
Powderman
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Re: Dept. of Homeland Security and antique firearms
Reply #1 - Mar 29th, 2015 at 6:24pm
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You just recieved a pat on the head and got told to go play by big brother.
No it doesnt just apply to businesses unfortunately.
The upshot is you need to place an application for export with a non refundable fee of about $1700. Whether the answer is yes, no or no answer at all this money will not be returned. From there the firearm is transferred from an FFL exporter to and acceptable importer.
Your best bet it to find an importer on the canadian side. They will have a list of companies they deal with routinely and will file the paperwork. One of the Canadian importers is also a licensed FFL exporter. This is Prophet River. The charge a bit more but at least its all being juggled by the same people.
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Sean
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Re: Dept. of Homeland Security and antique firearms
Reply #2 - Mar 30th, 2015 at 12:32pm
Here is a comment from canadiangunnutz .com website on this issue:
The USA Customs and state dept told me that all antique firearms exported that they still need to be filed with the AES ie Automated export system . even tho ITAR 123 exempts antique firearms you need to be a USA citizen to file in the AES for that exemption.
Just read Itar 123 its still exempts antiques but the HLS is saying you still must file in aes for the exemption is my understanding.
I get all my antiques thru a dealler FFL who can ship export legaly as far as i know antiques are still exempt but AES is still in effect always has been they just never enforeced it before.
So anything antique not filed in the AES for exemption can be seized even tho there exempt you must file in the AES to get the exemption.
Auction houses are known for prefering to use licenced exporters but i always use a FFL licenced to export anyway.
I think its one of them things thats not really enforeced but they can at anytime if its not done right.
I think auction houses just dont want the risk and or headache.
Does anybody know how to go about getting the Automated Export System Exemption for a US citizen?
Regards,
Powderman
Dept. of Homeland Security and antique firearms
Mar 29th, 2015 at 2:13pm
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The insanity continues. I just received this message:
I just wanted to let you know, Homeland Security has changed the laws
with regard to shipping firearms (to include antiques) internationally.
From this point forward, any firearms purchases (modern or antique) made
through our company will need to be shipped to a licensed exporter
within the U.S. for transfer.
Does this just apply to a business?
Regards,
Powderman
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Re: Dept. of Homeland Security and antique firearms
Reply #1 - Mar 29th, 2015 at 6:24pm
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You just recieved a pat on the head and got told to go play by big brother.
No it doesnt just apply to businesses unfortunately.
The upshot is you need to place an application for export with a non refundable fee of about $1700. Whether the answer is yes, no or no answer at all this money will not be returned. From there the firearm is transferred from an FFL exporter to and acceptable importer.
Your best bet it to find an importer on the canadian side. They will have a list of companies they deal with routinely and will file the paperwork. One of the Canadian importers is also a licensed FFL exporter. This is Prophet River. The charge a bit more but at least its all being juggled by the same people.
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Sean
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Re: Dept. of Homeland Security and antique firearms
Reply #2 - Mar 30th, 2015 at 12:32pm
Here is a comment from canadiangunnutz .com website on this issue:
The USA Customs and state dept told me that all antique firearms exported that they still need to be filed with the AES ie Automated export system . even tho ITAR 123 exempts antique firearms you need to be a USA citizen to file in the AES for that exemption.
Just read Itar 123 its still exempts antiques but the HLS is saying you still must file in aes for the exemption is my understanding.
I get all my antiques thru a dealler FFL who can ship export legaly as far as i know antiques are still exempt but AES is still in effect always has been they just never enforeced it before.
So anything antique not filed in the AES for exemption can be seized even tho there exempt you must file in the AES to get the exemption.
Auction houses are known for prefering to use licenced exporters but i always use a FFL licenced to export anyway.
I think its one of them things thats not really enforeced but they can at anytime if its not done right.
I think auction houses just dont want the risk and or headache.
Does anybody know how to go about getting the Automated Export System Exemption for a US citizen?
Regards,
Powderman
Willy Tincup
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Owen Sound
Deathwrat:
Don't give up hope on your parts just yet.
In April of 2012 I bought 500$ worth of parts from an individual in California...................and they disappeared. I could not find any trace of them; years later they were completly forgotten about.
Bingo; out of the blue on Dec 1st 2015 a parcel shows up in my mailbox with the missing parts. The tracking at that time showed they had just entered Canada 2 days earlier. Package had never been opened and no sticker or info of any kind on the parcel, just the Apr 12, 2012 post mark from Auburn, CA. Hard to imagine where they were for over 3 1/2 years.
Don't give up hope on your parts just yet.
In April of 2012 I bought 500$ worth of parts from an individual in California...................and they disappeared. I could not find any trace of them; years later they were completly forgotten about.
Bingo; out of the blue on Dec 1st 2015 a parcel shows up in my mailbox with the missing parts. The tracking at that time showed they had just entered Canada 2 days earlier. Package had never been opened and no sticker or info of any kind on the parcel, just the Apr 12, 2012 post mark from Auburn, CA. Hard to imagine where they were for over 3 1/2 years.
I had a dealer of antiques in the USA that used to sell and ship antiques and antique parts to me and others until early this year when he got a visit from DHS who told him they are now clamping down on exports and that he had to get a exporter licence and fill in export declarations for every shipment of antiques and parts. He now refuses to ship to Canada anymore.
