Any 10-22 "smiths" in Winnipeg Area?

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Long story short, bought a 10-22 Marauder from a CGNer a while back.

It never feeds correctly, so I though it was the mags, Got a few more mags, problem persists where it fails to chamber the .22LR round.

More then often it seems to get the round stuck nose against the area just under the "forcing cone" (is best I can describe it). Now it seems to me that the mag either doesn't go far enough up into the magwell, (magazine has the ramp as the area under the chamber seems to be flat, on the rifle) OR there is something I am not seeing that's causing my issue.

Hence it's preferred from somebody local that can take a gander for me.

The rifle is in the kit, it came that way, I have not removed it or anything since.

Mags seem to seat well, (I cannot remove them once they 'click' into place) I always tap the bottom of mag to be sure.

At best I can shoot ~10-13 rounds before a failure to feed.

Help is appreciated as I want this to be my fun gun, but so far it's the 'drive me up the wall' gun. Heh

Thanks
 
your choice of factory or aftermarket extractor and the relative power contained in the powder charge of your chosen type of ammo can have a significant impact on the manner in which your gun will eject spent cases
 
archerynut said:
your choice of factory or aftermarket extractor and the relative power contained in the powder charge of your chosen type of ammo can have a significant impact on the manner in which your gun will eject spent cases
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That's weird advice, esp considering the post is only about feeding issues.

Personally when I read a post, I feel it's important to read the original post, then offer advice related to the posters problem. That's me though. I like to be helpful.

Here, I own a 10/22 that had this exact feeding issue related to ammo choice, and I live in Winnipeg.
 
safety first said:
That's weird advice, esp considering the post is only about feeding issues.

Personally when I read a post, I feel it's important to read the original post, then offer advice related to the posters problem. That's me though. I like to be helpful.

Here, I own a 10/22 that had this exact feeding issue related to ammo choice, and I live in Winnipeg.
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You'd be surprised the pain an extractor can cause. I installed a PC extractor on a previous build and it was way to sharp! Once I sanded (rounded) the bottom corner it fed and extracted 100%...

Originally it was so sharp it would catch the wall of the round and wouldn't let it seat properly into the bolt while being chambered...
 
I am not saying it's not ammo related as well though... Could be a whole whack of things, I would also try a few different types of ammo. If that's all it is then your golden :)
 
safety first said:
That's weird advice, esp considering the post is only about feeding issues.

Personally when I read a post, I feel it's important to read the original post, then offer advice related to the posters problem. That's me though. I like to be helpful.

Here, I own a 10/22 that had this exact feeding issue related to ammo choice, and I live in Winnipeg.
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What's the problem and the fix then smart guy. I see no no advise offered to the op's problem, just smart Mouth banter towards someone else trying to help.

If it ends up being an ammo issue and you really want to stick with that ammo for accuracy reasons, try a Kidd charging handle assembly. Comes with 3 different springs for different velocity ammo.
 
I've tried different ammo... that was my first guess.

The ones I have plenty of is Federal lead (not jacketed or anything special), but I tried a bunch of others, from CCI (sub to super) to Fiocchi, to blazer... nothing seems to work, jacketed and not.. all seem to do the same thing.

I don't believe it's the extractor, because when the rifle cycles the spent rounds it seems to extract nicely, far away, and somewhat in the same direction. It almost seems to me, and again im no expert, that when the bolt cycles forward, the tip of the bullet, strikes the area just under the chamber and rather then angling up and into the chamber, it gets jammed ... it's hard to explain without actually seeing it. (sorry I don't have pics)

Anybody willing to take a looksy, i'd appreciate it.

I guess that's what happens when you buy somebody elses problems without them being disclosed, until you take it to the range.. heh.
 
Have you taken the stock off to see how the mags fit and cycle? I've got three 10/22's (including the magnum) and had an oversized ejector that caused issues. But it's been a while since I had one apart.
Clint
 
Have you tried stock 10 rounders? If it only happens with high cap mags and not with stock 10 rounders I would say it was mag fit. If it does it with 10 rounders with different ammo's it's probably extractor related. They can be too sharp or too angled, as TargetGuy said, and cause feed issues as the cartridge base slides up the bolt face and tries to slip under the extractor. Has the bolt face been cleaned lately? I just fixed one a couple of weeks back that had a feed problem that the owner swore was faulty mags but it turned out it had so much rock hard buildup that the bolt face looked smooth! It took me about 10 minutes with a dental pick to get it clean but it worked fine after that. Also a good suggestion by m777 to remove the aftermarket stock and put the OEM one back on if you have it. If not put tape over all the pins in the receiver so they don't fall out and test fire it without a stock.
Kim
 
I only have what the gun came with, no 10 rounder was included. No OEM stock either.

I did try every mag I could get my hands on and all do the same thing.

I am asking, if anybody would want to take a looksy for me, because I have no idea what Im looking at. I know the basics but beyond that it's beyond me.
 
Ye Olde Selkirk G.& F.....know it well and many great guys to help you there. Spent many hours there but sorry i had to move away. It does sound like a mag lip adjustment. it takes so little to cause a problem.
 
elimsprint said:
Have you tried stock 10 rounders? If it only happens with high cap mags and not with stock 10 rounders I would say it was mag fit. If it does it with 10 rounders with different ammo's it's probably extractor related. They can be too sharp or too angled, as TargetGuy said, and cause feed issues as the cartridge base slides up the bolt face and tries to slip under the extractor. Has the bolt face been cleaned lately? I just fixed one a couple of weeks back that had a feed problem that the owner swore was faulty mags but it turned out it had so much rock hard buildup that the bolt face looked smooth! It took me about 10 minutes with a dental pick to get it clean but it worked fine after that. Also a good suggestion by m777 to remove the aftermarket stock and put the OEM one back on if you have it. If not put tape over all the pins in the receiver so they don't fall out and test fire it without a stock.
Kim
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I have issues with just about every after market mag i have tried in mine, but the standard ruger 10 rounders work flawlessly with almost any ammo. What brand are your mags? I have heard of people with butler creek mags having to sand down the feed lips as they were too high and the closing of the bolt forces the mag down slightly and causes feeding issues.
If you can hook up with someone who has a factory 10 rounder, try it out.\ and hold it side by side to some of yours to compare the feed lips and feed ramp.
 
I actually had the same problem that you've described. When I pull back on the charging handle and release, the round is pushed forward by the bolt and the point is literally smashed into the edge of the chamber. This occurs mostly with hollow points, but sometimes with soft points. This happened way too often, so out of desperation I used a dremel to cut a feed ramp into the edge of the chamber.

I want to point out that I have NO GUNSMITHING EXPERIENCE, and this is in no way professional advice.

After cutting a ramp with a conic metal grinding bit, it feeds perfectly fine. Here is a picture of the ramp:

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TheGamer### said:
@Langbanger... actually that's not true. You must load/unload the magazines for them to lessen the spring tension... but hey I've tried everything else lol
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Actually this technique works. 2 of the four BC mags I have gave me nothing but problems (improper feeding). I loaded the mags and left them for two weeks. I only had 5 feed issues in 500, rapid fire and singe shot plinking. Maybe you should try it before discounting the advice of others.
 
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