Any Albertans out there have an ATC?

condomboy said:
let me translate that, what he is saying is roughly:

Hello and good day, my good friend G-skrilla in Edmonton, Alberta has informed me that he received an ATC. He informed law enforcement about the ill dealings of his co-workers in order to receive favour in the eye of the law and now they are displeased with him for that act of betrayal. Since they feel betrayed they would like to seek revenge and take his life. The police department has given him an ATC to protect his life from his former co-workers. Thank you very much and have a wonderful day.

Since he said it in such a way makes me think he might just be trying to pull a leg as it is doubtful that they would arm an informant.
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Yo props fo breakin it down fo da bougie folks. Respect
 
condomboy said:
let me translate that, what he is saying is roughly:

Hello and good day, my good friend G-skrilla in Edmonton, Alberta has informed me that he received an ATC. He informed law enforcement about the ill dealings of his co-workers in order to receive favour in the eye of the law and now they are displeased with him for that act of betrayal. Since they feel betrayed they would like to seek revenge and take his life. The police department has given him an ATC to protect his life from his former co-workers. Thank you very much and have a wonderful day.
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The daily WIN!!
 
I'm wondering if there's a information site or place to find out the steps needed to get a ATC for work related reasons, I already have an ATC for my armored truck job but I run a part time business now, I wont get into details on these forums, it's not that I feel that a firearm is needed but I feel like I could qualify for a 2nd ATC.
 
AK said:
And you're ok with more than a "bit" less firepower. Antiques are called such for a reason. The odd few chambered in modern-ish cartridges can be loaded to velocities that approach modern ammo, but certainly nothing I'd want to stake my life on against a grizzly.
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There are nice .357 antiques (all that needs to be antique is the frame) and of course a whack of .45 ACP and .44 Special revolvers.

And if you're really eager for firepower, a nice antique cone hammer Mauser for $7,000+ will show up here once in a while. 7.63 Mauser generates well over 400 foot pounds at 1400 fps and was the nastiest handgun cartridge around until the invention of the .357 magnum. The penetration is awesome, and there is a reason the sights are graduated to 1000 meters. 10 rounds of 7.63 Mauser, and a couple more stripper clips in your pocket, would settle most things you could meet in Canada's woods.

Of course, carrying handguns in the wilderness, antique or otherwise, will guarantee you meet more than your share of Law Enforcement Officers.

For wildlife concerns, I'd first consider bear spray, a flare pistol with bear bangers, a good walking stick, and if I really needed a firearm, something also useful for hunting or signaling if I got lost or broke a leg.
 
gunzik said:
There are nice .357 antiques (all that needs to be antique is the frame) and of course a whack of .45 ACP and .44 Special revolvers.

And if you're really eager for firepower, a nice antique cone hammer Mauser for $7,000+ will show up here once in a while. 7.63 Mauser generates well over 400 foot pounds at 1400 fps and was the nastiest handgun cartridge around until the invention of the .357 magnum. The penetration is awesome, and there is a reason the sights are graduated to 1000 meters. 10 rounds of 7.63 Mauser, and a couple more stripper clips in your pocket, would settle most things you could meet in Canada's woods.

Of course, carrying handguns in the wilderness, antique or otherwise, will guarantee you meet more than your share of Law Enforcement Officers.

For wildlife concerns, I'd first consider bear spray, a flare pistol with bear bangers, a good walking stick, and if I really needed a firearm, something also useful for hunting or signaling if I got lost or broke a leg.
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Good answer, the antique is the best way to go, just make sure to carry your RCMP letter and a copy of the antique regulations with you, as most LEO do not know the laws regarding antiques.
 
I'm seriously looking at DA grizzly's 12.5 inch barrel pump shotgun. With the right setup, it could be carried reasonably unobtrusively. After watching a video taken 50km from here of a pack of wolves circling a work truck, I'm more motivated than ever to find something to carry while out in the bush.

I've considered flare guns, but they're single shot for the most part, and I'm not trusting my life to the tactic of "scarring" the predator away. I want to stop it, DEAD. Besides, if it's willing to attack me, it's only a matter of time before it jumps somebody else, and they might be as well preparred. If an animal attacks a human, it's dead, as far as I'm concerned.
 
I had a ATC for protection of life... I met the criteria so it did not take long to get. It was a eye opener, the responsibility and the stress of packing a concealed weapon was more then I thought it would be... going to a public washroom, a change room, where to safely store it when you can't carry it. I did not go to bars for fear of getting in a altercation.... I could go on...

The reality is that most applications are bunk hence the high failure rate, as well the bunk applications have made it harder for the real ones to get through..

A word of caution, a good portion of information regarding ATC's (in the public domain) is incorrect... there was one fellow one here who was promoting a canadian carry site, he did a lot of damage! Do what you are doing, find people that had/have a wilderness ATC, ignore the rest.....
 
So fellas...'go antique'?

Would my trusty Uberti .44 cap n' ball revolver be an 'antique'?

I would dearly love to take that gun camping, it is just a whole bunch of fun to shoot! The stink from the Goex would repel bears, fish cops, girl friends and other unnecessary distractions to the back woods beardo!
 
Yes, Alberta only.

Authorization to Carry Restricted Firearms or Prohibited Handguns

(Applicant works in a remote wilderness area and firearms are required for the protection of his or her life or the lives of other individuals from wild animals.)
 
Super Trooper said:
Yes, Alberta only.

Authorization to Carry Restricted Firearms or Prohibited Handguns

(Applicant works in a remote wilderness area and firearms are required for the protection of his or her life or the lives of other individuals from wild animals.)
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Work related only I take it? As in, if you're not "at work" it's not valid?
 
I had one in the 80s, when I was a surveyor in Grande Prairie. At that time we had to apply to RCMP K Division. The last time I had one, I had to have a personal interview with a Mountie. They were(are) only for work. As far as keeping it a secret, it would be kind of hard, considering you have to carry in plain sight. My first permit didn't mention that, so I carried in a shoulder holster, to avoid answering a hundred questions. My ex-brother-in-law has one, and he's a wildlife photographer. The spectrum of qualified applicants is broader than you might think. There was an oil scout in GP who had a permit, and I can assure you, he wasn't afraid of bears. Those guys used to get their asses kicked by rig hands. Most oil companies will no longer sign off on them, so you pretty well have to be a contractor to get one now. I'm considering going back to the field for a couple of years, to collect some retirement toys. I'll definitely be applying for a new permit.
 
I am with you, wishing that carrying a gun, that just happens to be a little more shorter, should be more easier to do in Canada. That said the solution that I've chosen for the time being is getting a Mare's Leg rifle. This has a 12 inch barrel. In the US it is actually considered a handgun, but here in Canada it meets the requirement of a rifle. I have the 35 longcolt Rossi. Bought it at Wanstalls. Wanstalls also sells the holsters for them. This is a sweet little gun. You can also get them in 357 mag and 44 mag, I believe. Not the perfect solution, but as Fred Flinstone once said, "better than a kick in the head."
 
gunzik said:
There are nice .357 antiques (all that needs to be antique is the frame) and of course a whack of .45 ACP and .44 Special revolvers.
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I don't get what you mean; .357 magnum ammunition was introduced in 1935, hardly antique. Are there any early revolvers that can be converted to handle that load?

gunzik said:
And if you're really eager for firepower, a nice antique cone hammer Mauser for $7,000+ will show up here once in a while. 7.63 Mauser generates well over 400 foot pounds at 1400 fps and was the nastiest handgun cartridge around until the invention of the .357 magnum. The penetration is awesome, and there is a reason the sights are graduated to 1000 meters. 10 rounds of 7.63 Mauser, and a couple more stripper clips in your pocket, would settle most things you could meet in Canada's woods.
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Okay, Mauser is getting closer -- it was introduced in 1896. I believe that under Canadian law, a firearm must be somewhat older than that to qualify as antique (although I wouldn't bet the rent money). Maybe the law says no current ammunition allowed; I really don't remember and I'm going to go to bed as soon as I finish this. The C96 is a large, heavy, awkward weapon of dubious reliability. It would not be my choice for self-defence. Nor is the 85 grain bullet suitable for grizzlies.

There are antique revolvers that can be purchased without registration but they use obscure loadings and cost an arm and a leg.
 
pilot_dc said:
I'm seriously looking at DA grizzly's 12.5 inch barrel pump shotgun. With the right setup, it could be carried reasonably unobtrusively. After watching a video taken 50km from here of a pack of wolves circling a work truck, I'm more motivated than ever to find something to carry while out in the bush.

I've considered flare guns, but they're single shot for the most part, and I'm not trusting my life to the tactic of "scarring" the predator away. I want to stop it, DEAD. Besides, if it's willing to attack me, it's only a matter of time before it jumps somebody else, and they might be as well preparred. If an animal attacks a human, it's dead, as far as I'm concerned.
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Why not carry tavor 21 or cz858 with folding stock? Both are the same size as the 12.5" shotgun.
 
Geof said:
I am with you, wishing that carrying a gun, that just happens to be a little more shorter, should be more easier to do in Canada. That said the solution that I've chosen for the time being is getting a Mare's Leg rifle. This has a 12 inch barrel. In the US it is actually considered a handgun, but here in Canada it meets the requirement of a rifle. I have the 35 longcolt Rossi. Bought it at Wanstalls. Wanstalls also sells the holsters for them. This is a sweet little gun. You can also get them in 357 mag and 44 mag, I believe. Not the perfect solution, but as Fred Flinstone once said, "better than a kick in the head."
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I think that you meant to write 45 Long Colt ...
 
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