Any Info On S&W Military & Police?
- Thread starter Max Owner
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The M&P line of double action revolvers probably were the back bone of the Smith & Wesson company. These are well made guns, built on double action K frames, with both tapered or untappered barrels, fixed sights, and a front under barrel lug which locks up the ejector rod. The gun most often encountered is the Military and Police M-10 in .38 Special. The Model 10 came in all sorts of barrel lengths from 2"-6". The 5" Victory model in .38 S&W fit the M&P profile. Purists may resent me refering to the Victory as an M&P, but all aspects of the gun fit the designation. Other M&P models included the M-13 .357 Magnum with a 4" untapered barrel, the M&P Airweight was the M-12, and there was a 9mm version called the M-547. Stainless versions of the M-10 came out as the M-64, and of the M-13 the M-65. In the '70's a short lived big bore version of the M&P came out, the M-58 a 4" bull barreled .41 Magnum.
Another S&W product which may fit the M&P line is the M-1917 in .45 ACP and, I think, in .455 Webly. I doubt if this gun was a K-frame, but it has the same outward appearance as the other M&P models.
These guns can be found used for about $150.00 for a M-10, you would have to check with a dealer for a new price. If you buy used, some of the ex-police guns may of suffered some abuse. Check for bent ejector rods, sprung cranes, out of time cylinders, firing pin indents around the chambers, and soft springs. Generally the outward appearance of the gun will tell you much about how it was cared for, and if you are not knowledgasble about these guns I would stay clear of any which appear to of been modified - such as cut away trigger guards orbobbed hammers.
Another S&W product which may fit the M&P line is the M-1917 in .45 ACP and, I think, in .455 Webly. I doubt if this gun was a K-frame, but it has the same outward appearance as the other M&P models.
These guns can be found used for about $150.00 for a M-10, you would have to check with a dealer for a new price. If you buy used, some of the ex-police guns may of suffered some abuse. Check for bent ejector rods, sprung cranes, out of time cylinders, firing pin indents around the chambers, and soft springs. Generally the outward appearance of the gun will tell you much about how it was cared for, and if you are not knowledgasble about these guns I would stay clear of any which appear to of been modified - such as cut away trigger guards orbobbed hammers.
Max Owner said:
I've seen a couple magazine reviews so far and read a bit about them on other forums... Those who have had actual hands-on time with them have positive things to say about them. I think it was Guns & Ammo Handguns a month or 2 ago that had a full review. THe reviewer was impressed with the un-jamability (I know it's not a word) of the M&P. He tried everything to jam it, but couldn't.... But of course you have to take a magazine review with a grain of salt.
Don't buy into any negative speculations that come from people that haven't actually either held or fired one, though. I've seen negative "reviews" on other forums based solely on a single picture, typical crap.
gushulak said:
Don't you think you should see the gun before you start criticising it?
And how is it a "Glock Copy"? Just because it has a polymer frame? Well guess again, it doesnt have a poly frame. It has a steel frame beneeth the plastic. Glock may have had the first poly frame gun on the market, but to call anything made with plastic a glock copy is like calling all metal semi-autos 1911 copies....I'm actually looking forward to shooting one of these. The ergonomics look way more comfortable (at least for what my hand likes) than a lot of other pistols currently out there right now.
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Boomer; Thanx for all the info, but it is the new auto that Smith & Wesson is coming out with.
I agree with Kraus B......
I would buy a Glock in anything but a .40. They have a very low chance of a KA, but a chance non the less. I won't take it.
I have the magazines, but just moved and they are MIA, so far...... Plus they COULD be a bit biased in their reviews...
I agree with Kraus B......
I would buy a Glock in anything but a .40. They have a very low chance of a KA, but a chance non the less. I won't take it.
I have the magazines, but just moved and they are MIA, so far...... Plus they COULD be a bit biased in their reviews...
For those who haven't seen one yet. Pretty, it aint. But I think it looks like it should fit my hand quite well. Interchangable backstraps too.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=11101&langId=-1&productId=27806&tabselected=tech&isFirearm=Y&parent_category_rn=15711
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=11101&langId=-1&productId=27806&tabselected=tech&isFirearm=Y&parent_category_rn=15711
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krausb said:For those who haven't seen one yet. Pretty, it aint. But I think it looks like it should fit my hand quite well. Interchangable backstraps too.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=11101&langId=-1&productId=27806&tabselected=tech&isFirearm=Y&parent_category_rn=15711
Nothin personal but.....yuck......probably an age thing.
S&W Military & Police Semi-Auto
The gun has only just started to ship in the U.S.
They are still on what's called "allocation" meaning each distributor gets a few and they dole them out to their dealers in one's and two's. But his will change over the next few months as supply increases and the distribution network fills up.
We can get them... I expect the first ones to start arriving in about 6 to 8 weeks.
We estimate price will be @ $899.00 Canadian.
Mark
The gun has only just started to ship in the U.S.
They are still on what's called "allocation" meaning each distributor gets a few and they dole them out to their dealers in one's and two's. But his will change over the next few months as supply increases and the distribution network fills up.
We can get them... I expect the first ones to start arriving in about 6 to 8 weeks.
We estimate price will be @ $899.00 Canadian.
Mark
krausb, you have to remember that this is not a North American made handgun friendly forum, unless the guns are made by Gunther, Klaus or Antonio most guys here have an instant and usually unjustified hate on for them. There are lots of Eurotrash gun snobs here. I wouldn't mind trying one of the M&P's in 40 S&W, they look mighty fine to me.
I wouldn't mind trying one of the M&P's in 40 S&W, they look mighty fine to me.
I just bought a .38 Smith and Wesson M&P
I just picked mine up from Ellwood Epps in Ontario. It cost $299. It is in excellent condition and has a jewelled trigger and hammer. DOn't know how it functions though because I'm still waiting for my ATT. Ellwood Epps has one right now for $249 with a holster. I saw it and the S&W was in good condition.
I just picked mine up from Ellwood Epps in Ontario. It cost $299. It is in excellent condition and has a jewelled trigger and hammer. DOn't know how it functions though because I'm still waiting for my ATT. Ellwood Epps has one right now for $249 with a holster. I saw it and the S&W was in good condition.
jfreeman said:
I'm with you, jfreeman!
To my mind the real S&W Military & Police model (
) was its classic revolver line. In .380/.38S&W, it was Canada's primary military-issue handgun during WWII - over 118,000 of them acquired.The one in my collection of Canadian military handguns is a very nice early war example (commercial finish):
